Sunnier, But Cool This Weekend

A nice surprise on visible satellite imagery this morning.  Even though we still have a very thick marine layer, the upper level low passing overhead must have “stirred things up” a bit; you can see plenty of clearing west of the Cascades.    This is a sign of a much brighter day ahead.  And it will still be a cool day so everyone should be happy.

Astronomical Fall started this morning (about an hour or so ago).  Meteorologically we consider Fall to be September-November.  That’s because across most of the northern hemisphere the warmest three months are June-August and the coldest are December-February.  That leaves the 6 months in the middle as Fall and Spring.  It’s all very arbitrary and there are only 3 weeks difference between the two so it sure isn’t worth an argument.  But here’s a curious fact that adds to the debate:  West of the Cascades in Oregon and Washington (and parts of California too), September is slightly warmer than June.  A quick check across the rest of the USA (including eastern Oregon and Washington) shows that we are alone along the west coast with this phenomenon.  June, July, and August are the warmest just about anywhere else.  This likely contributes to the general feeling that summer is “delayed” here.  The past two years sure have helped that along too!  Part of the reason is the slow to warm and slow to cool Pacific Ocean, and the general weather pattern often features more upper-level (cool) disturbances passing overhead. 

But think about the main difference between the two months (June and September).  We get far more cool onshore flow in June.  In a normal September we get more offshore (easterly) flow events in September than June.  That would mean that if all else is equal temperature-wise in the atmosphere between the two months, then September should average warmer west of the mountains.  We’ve seen what a difference the wind direction can make this week.  The 5,000′ temperature was about the same Monday-Thursday, yet we had a high of 90 one day and 63 another just due to a low-level wind switch.  Occasional episodes like this are enough to make September slightly warmer.  And why do we get more offshore flow in September?  Because the continent starts to cool with the longer nights.  That equals more episodes of higher pressure to our east.  So I suppose one could argue that because the interior USA is cooler in September, we end up slightly warmer (on average).

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

41 Responses to Sunnier, But Cool This Weekend

  1. Holy smokes! Check out the layer of smoke streaming all the way from Montana thru Washington down into Oregon. That ain’t clouds overhead, folks!
    http://sat.wrh.noaa.gov/satellite/showsat.php?wfo=pqr&area=west&type=vis&size=4

  2. W7ENK says:

    WOW! 😯

    An incredible blood-red sunrise this morning from Downtown Portland…

  3. bgb41 says:

    9/23/2012 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    Warmest:
    High:85 at ILLINOIS VALLEY(1389 ft)
    Low: 63 at RED MOUND(1753 ft)

    Coldest:
    High:51 at EILERTSON MEADOW(5400 ft)
    Low: 33 at CRANE PRAIRIE (5500 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 40 degrees
    PROVOLT SEED ORC (84/44 ) (1180 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.32″ at CORVALLIS(230ft)
    0.31″ at RIDDLE MTN.(6352ft)

  4. AdamInAumsville says:

    Well, the 12Z GFS is a real scorcher. Again, no precip in the 16 day timeframe.

  5. *BoringOregon* says:

    One sweet Helicopter ride–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I8IjZ7eFdU&feature=plcp

  6. W7ENK says:

    Sorry about your Prius vs. Deer incident tonight, Mark… glad you’re okay! 😯

  7. josh says:

    im so ready for some snow i know you guys Portland south got screwed but i got 16 inches out of this still plus the ice that fell anyone else got the winter mood

    • David B. says:

      Yeah, Portland got gypped by the weather gods last winter.

      It seemed very similar to the big snows of 1996, when the Puget Sound region got feet of snow (over 23″ in Shoreline, where I was living at the time, and that was hardly the heaviest total accumulation in the region), but except for a 1-day spate of ice Portland was mostly rain and temperatures in the 50s. Sometimes an arctic front can just stall partway between SEA and PDX.

      Hopefully the winter lovers in PDX won’t go disappointed in the coming one.

    • W7ENK says:

      “Sometimes an arctic front can just stall partway between SEA and PDX.”

      It hurts worst when that “partway” is at the Columbia River, like last winter… and the winter before. 😥

  8. I’m beginning to think this is going to be a odd (odder than the normal odd) winter here. There is so much open water in the arctic that the jet is going to be weird until things freeze up. And that will no doubt take more time than usual. Also the fact that we are entering a weak El Nino……..

    • W7ENK says:

      Actually, that weak El Niño is on his way out the door already…

      Technically, the ENSO barely even touched Niño territory back in July, but it’s not going to be official, because the requirements are five consecutive months of sea surface temperatures in the Eastern Pacific at or beyond +/-1C. This doesn’t cut it. This will be a Lu Neutral year. That’s official!

    • pdxgeologist says:

      You’re probably right about the continuation of the ENSO Neutral condition, but technically it’s based on Region 3.4, not 3. 3.4 has stayed at or above +.5 as of the last report (but it’s trending down).

    • I’m looking at the NOAA/NCEP summary which continues to predict El Nino to develop. They’ve been pretty good the last coupleyears http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/enso_evolution-status-fcsts-web.pdf

      • ENSO-neutral conditions continue.*
      • Equatorial sea surface temperatures (SST) are greater than 0.5°C above average across the eastern Pacific Ocean.
      • The atmospheric circulation over the tropical Pacific is near average.
      • El Niño conditions are likely to develop during September 2012.*

      Could be the Aussies have it right, I don’t know. Maybe the Russian model has us plunging into a nuclear winter 🙂 You just
      never know…

    • W7ENK says:

      ENSO 3 was at +0.48C and decreasing as of last week.

      ENSO 3.4 was at +0.57C and on the same decrease.
      ENSO 3.4 didn’t even make that +1.0C threshold.

      An El Niño is not likely to happen at this point.

    • As we all know ENSO neutral conditions doesn’t guarantee a snowy or windy Winter.It’s pretty much a wait and see year unlike 2010 and 2011 when we knew La Nina was coming

    • Mr Data says:

      I hope El Nino doesn’t stumble on his way out! :p

    • Mr Data says:

      I also hope he remembers to turn off the garage light.

  9. W7ENK says:

    It’s odd to see the clouds coming out of the East today. It feels warm and muggy in the sun, I hope that translates to something exciting later, but it probably won’t.

    • *BoringOregon* says:

      yea, it is muggy out side I was out side doing yard work and notice that the hazy sky is back again. And I notice a caterpillar in the lawn too wonder what that means? And some clouds over mt hood after sun set?

  10. josh says:

    is it the sun angle or smoke or clouds that’s making the sun seem so dim today

  11. Check out that dry arctic origin air pouring down the back side of the ridge!
    That would lead to some serious early season freeze in the sheltered areas (ie, HIO). Will see what the ensembles show.
    http://www.met.sjsu.edu/weather/models/gfsone-12/ex_sfcdwpf-ani.html


  12. I like the look of the operational 12z GFS
    At 288 hr. That could put some frost on some green pumpkins!

  13. Brrrrrr! How cold was it where you live? I woke up to 44.8 and I had to actually turn on the gas furnace. This was the earliest we’ve turned on the heat with never doing so before October 1st.

  14. Snow/Arctic Air on the way? Tonight’s 00z ECMWF shows a pretty good setup with a strong block nosing well up into Alaska and axis near 143 W. A nice trough digs southwest just off the Oregon Coast. Would like to see what transpires beyond day 10 and whether or not the ridge retrogrades or if a strong lobe breaks off the PV down into AB/BC, but that’s out in la-la land.
    http://www.cascadeaccess.com/~mnelsen/Models/ecmwf500mb_ecmwf.html
    OH WAIT it isn’t late November…. A few months ahead of myself.

    • W7ENK says:

      Hopefully it’s a sign of things to come? Maybe we can get THAT pattern to lock in through the winter instead of the crappy one we’ve locked in here the last couple of years…? Wouldn’t that be a nice change?!

  15. karlbonner1982 says:

    Here’s my theory toward September vs. June for the I-5 corridor: a strong offshore pattern in June is likely to produce slightly hotter temps west of the Cascades than a September offshore pattern, due to the higher sun angle. HOWEVER, September gets quite a few more offshore days than June does – enough so that the average high temps come out a degree or two warmer in spite of the weaker sun angle.

    And if the mild offshore pattern dominates in early to mid-October, we end up with a year like 1952, 1987 or 1991 with tons of upper 70s and 80s west of the mountains.

  16. bgb41 says:

    9/22/2012 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    Warmest:
    High:87 at Valley Falls (US(4324 ft)
    Low: 63 at Wyeth(97 ft) & HARL BUTTE(6071 ft)

    Coldest:
    High:53 at HEBOWX Mt. Hebo(3160 ft)
    Low: 26 at Mazama (4590 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 53 degrees
    Mazama (79/26 ) (4590 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.02″ at Medford, Rogue V(1329ft)

  17. karlbonner1982 says:

    Cooler continent warming up the West Coast….cooler air aloft breaking a chilly surface inversion. Lots of fascinating temperature paradoxes this time of year!

  18. *BoringOregon* says:

    Hope it clears up a little today get to go on a Helicopter ride !

  19. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    I was correct…but I thought it might happen yesterday…I guess I can’t ever be 100% correct!

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    Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:
    September 21, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Sometimes a small upper level disturbance is enough to stir up the marine layer though 🙂 ???

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      Mark said the models nailed it when they missed the cooling by two days. You only missed the clear skies by one day! You in!

  20. bgb41 says:

    I mentioned a few days ago when the 850mb temps at Salem fall that we would see the marine layer break up. This mornings sounding shows +10.6c there which did the trick.