First Alert Weather Mornings ahead; cold showers dump wet snow in spots

8pm Wednesday…

March is almost here! We’ve got a Leap Day tomorrow, then the first weekend of March 2024 ahead. Now some years in late winter or very early spring we get mornings with sloppy/wet snowfall in the lowlands of NW Oregon or SW Washington. Last year it occurred several days in the first week of the month. Notice the highs/lows and traces of snowfall at PDX last March. Highs only reached the mid-upper 40s, but little/no overnight freezing

The last day of February and first few days of March THIS year look the same. First, just the TL;DR version for those of you not that interested in details.

KEY POINTS

  • Next 2-3 mornings the sticking snow level dips very close the valley floor west of the Cascades. During the coldest part of the day (2am-8am), IF a heavy shower moves through your neighborhood, a quick 1-2″ (or more?) of snow could accumulate. This could happen ANYWHERE, especially Friday/Saturday mornings.
  • If you want snow, elevation helps a bit because it’s colder as you go uphill, but it’s really about where the heavy showers form/move. Weather models don’t handle details in this pattern well. For example, they don’t know that at 7am Friday heavy showers drop snow over Beaverton at 200′, but none pass over Sandy at 1,000′ (just an example). We just know that showers will be roaming around. Don’t get fixated on elevations
  • If you live near/above 1,000′, you are just about guaranteed at least a dusting each of the next 3 mornings.
  • Thursday (tomorrow) morning is a little different. Steady rain later tonight turns to a heavy/wet snow for many of the communities east of I-5 and up in elevation a bit. Expect a sloppy dusting or up to 3″ in some of those spots such as Sandy, Estacada, Damascus, Boring, Corbett, hills around Oregon City, etc…
  • Regardless of what happens each morning, temperatures jump into the 40s every afternoon for clear roads. People like me that work afternoons/evenings aren’t really affected by this weather pattern.
  • We will see lots of “vigorous” showers each day for a mix of sun/hail/rain/snow/thunder showers. That’s like what we saw on Monday. Any location could suddenly get a dump of hail/snow at mid-afternoon if a heavy shower passes over.
  • There is no cold air on the way, by that I mean no widespread freezing. Don’t worry about pipes, pets, plants, etc…

The weather fun is being brought to us courtesy of a chilly upper-level trough out in the Pacific. Here’s the view up at 18,000′ tomorrow

By Sunday the trough is weakening and has split up a bit

Last year’s close calls with morning snow were under the same setup; a cold upper-level trough just offshore on March 5th

No official measurable snowfall in Portland last March, but I had 4 days with snow up at 1,000′ at home just eat of Corbett

You can sure see the cold/unstable air approaching behind this evening’s cold front. Look at those “popcorn” looking clouds to the west!

The airmass tomorrow morning actually isn’t as cold as Fri/Sat mornings (just -3 to -4 at 850mb). Tomorrow morning’s snow possibility is what we call an “anafront”. That’s when steady/heavy precipitation falls BEHIND the cold front, dragging the sticking snow level 1-2,000′ lower than one would expect. In the past, these anafronts have brought a quick snow dump in the lowlands. Often it’s the lowlands up against the western Cascade foothills. The fresh 00z GRAF model has increased the snowfall forecast, although it seems a bit aggressive pushing 1/2″ deep into the eastern half of Portland and even downtown. We will see!

This WRF-GFS forecast through 4pm tomorrow is a bit messy with all those wind arrows on top. But you see those 1-2″ forecast totals down into foothills of eastern Multnomah and Clackamas counties

I love this graphic…the WRF-GFS cross-section for the next 96 hours (4 days). I’ve drawn in the zero degree (C) isotherm; you can see the lowering freezing level each morning. Notice it’s coldest Friday and Saturday mornings

Then the sounding for Friday morning at 7am from the same model. This is a “valley floor snow” sounding with temps at/below freezing just about to the surface. In this setup ALL showers are just snow in the lowest elevations. But whether it sticks in any one location depends on intensity and duration.

So IF showers are still going both Friday and Saturday mornings, ANYONE could see sticking snow as they pass overhead. Or, you could live closer to 1,000′, no showers pass during the coldest part of the day, and you get almost nothing. See why you shouldn’t get hung up on elevation? It always helps because it’s colder, but it’s only one factor in this weather pattern.

That’s it for this evening, I’m off for a quick little ski vacation and some Dune time the next couple of days, but the rest of the weather team should have this showery weather pattern handled well.

52 Responses to First Alert Weather Mornings ahead; cold showers dump wet snow in spots

  1. Kyle says:

    I wanna see some apology burgers for those that made fun of Mark for predicting 75-80F weather. You know who you are. 🤮 

    “Additionally, 00z EC ensemble guidance shows tight clustering around +12 to +13 deg C for 850 mb temps this afternoon, implying potential for inland temps to be about 2 deg C warmer (3-4 deg F) warmer than Sunday. We applied these changes to Sunday`s temps, which pushes our forecast temps into the upper 70s and even close to 80 deg F for portions of the PDX metro area. NBM guidance appears to be slowly correcting its cold bias, but isn`t quite there yet. As has been the case the last few days, our forecast temps/RH are fairly close to the 90th percentile warmest and driest solutions offered by the NBM, and this persists until our pattern changes midweek.”

  2. Kyle says:

    I just found out the same store on a video from last year had 1,000 clocks to reset. This year it’s 500 I guess they sold a bunch but imagine resetting 1,000 clocks.

  3. Eric Storm says:

    Where’s the fork? Did I miss it?

  4. West Linn 200 says:

    What a glorious day already. Almost makes me want to start Spring planting of annuals, but I know there’s still more frost and possible freezing coming up. Hopefully we can expel the cold by April for good after the upcoming pattern change. Maybe even get a good lightning storm or two during the transition if we’re lucky.

    • Kyle says:

      We need all the mountain snow we can get if we don’t want the state to burn up later in this summer. If we had a near normal snowpack I’d strongly agree with you but we need an April Buster this year.

  5. X from Aumsville says:

    Can’t wait for us to move to the other side of this awful warm spell. At least the humidity will be dry which makes the transition far easier. Why can’t we hve a colder then average March? Everyone seems to want the state to burn up before they are satisfied.  We really need a tree on fire emotion to suite our modern climo.

  6. Kyle says:

    There’s a store in Sisters that has to set literally 500 clocks every time we switch forwards and backwards. It takes all day to do so. That’s right. Five hundred clocks of different types and sizes.

  7. Kyle says:

    PST sunset at the earliest is 4:30pm for 2 months between mid November till mid January when it’s after 5:pm again.

    DST would be 5:30pm and +2 would be 6:30pm where we get that actual benefit of later sunsets but mornings would be so so dark even more then permanent DST.

    No sunrise till 10am and that’s under clear skies. Add 1/2 hour under thick overcast/fog which is more common then not. I feel REALLY bad for WA during this as they’d be on the darker side of the whole spectrum.

  8. Kyle says:

    Let’s be real. If we really wanted actual benefits of sunlight in the winter permanent DST would only work if we engaged +2 hours instead of 1 then we would have a sunset at 6:30pm instead of 5:30pm DST which still wouldn’t be enough to offset the darker mornings (9am) sunrises)

    DST is really only beneficial in the summer months not any other season so DST should only be in May thru September when it really benefits the extra hour. Hell why not make it 2? 

    • Grizzly Bear says:

      Much ado about nothing, same amount of daylight and darkness, just rise with the sun and sleep when it’s dark. That’s what we do over here in Idaho, shovel snow when the sun comes up, play in the snow during the day, bring in the firewood in the afternoon & read a book by the fireside during the evening. The good life. Idaho is a great place to visit but don’t stay!

  9. Roland Derksen says:

    Looking forward to see the big warm-up. I’m reminded somewhat of what happened in March 2019 which was a cool (or cold) month in the beginning , then it became warm and sunny mid-month.

  10. OC550 says:

    As much as I love winter and snow, this weekend is looking sweet. I’ll take upper 60’s and low 70’s with sunshine. Going to enjoy every minute of it.

    Also, just a bummer what has happened to the blog. Have really enjoyed it over the years, but there’s only a few of that post anymore and I’m sure the # of visits are down. 

  11. Kyle says:

    If we have to do this stupid twice a year rule we need to have it be the first week of May because then we really reap the benefits. Even an hour later in the winter is still too dark to really make any use of it and the morning downsize just isn’t worth the meager amount we get. I am SO glad we don’t have 9am sunrise in the winter time.

  12. West Linn 200 says:

    Those wind gusts sure did a number on us last night, what a mess. I see more wind gusts through tomorrow also. Hopefully not nearly as bad as last night.

    Looking forward to the nice weather later in the week and onward!

    • Kyle says:

      God this morning was scary dark. Not feeling good and was up all night but man it took forrrrrrrrrrrrrrrever to get bright. I hate DST sunrises. The benefits don’t actually come till towards May so doing this now is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too soon.

      When I was little it wasn’t till the week before my birthday we did DST and I always knew it was getting time and mornings weren’t anywhere near so dark because of it being mid April instead of March. 

      I mean it wasn’t as good as permanent time but nowhere near so bad as this month. Good Lord! 7:30am brightness it feels like winter mornings again. So done with THAT garbage!

  13. WEATHERDAN says:

    57 currently after 28 this morning. Yesterday 3 people were shot just 4 blocks from my house here in Salem. What an eye opener. First warm spell of the year coming up late next week. Peace.

    • Kyle says:

      You just NOW figured it out about what’s going on in Salem? I guess better late then never but remember you were warned by man for a long time this was coming but did nothing except name call those who did. 

  14. WEATHERDAN says:

    35 and clear currently. 26 this morning. Nicest weather in some time. I am really looking forward to Spring. Peace.

  15. Roland Derksen says:

    Some snow here again last night- I also saw lightning once on the SE horizon, but today skies have cleared and we’re finally getting to see all that new snow on the mountains. Looks fabulous!

  16. Ken in Sheridan 300' says:

    Steady snow for the last 40 minutes or so …. big, sticky flakes …best event of the last few days …. 33 degrees PTL

  17. grays78910 says:

    absolute dumping of snow yesterday. Ended the event with 10 inches. Woke up this morning to 4 more inches that fell overnight. Currently 29 degrees. Lost power yesterday for 1.5 hours. No snow plows in my area, 4 wheel drive is the only way in or out. In the hills between Rainier and Clatskaine

  18. Longview 400ft says:

    Currently 34.0

    Had two inches of snow this morning.

    Low was 31.5 this morning.

  19. grays78910 says:

    31 degrees 6 inches of new snow @ 1000 ft in the hill between Rainier and Clatskaine Oregon

  20. Mountain Man says:

    Just sharing some statistics from my foothill location, specifically meteorological winter. I have two weather stations set at 1360 feet and 1310 feet. I have 31 years of records but 6 from those elevation and 25 previous from from my neighbor at 1180 feet who gave me his notebook of observations before he passed away. This is a combination of them.

    This year:

    snow 26.5″

    rain 49.3″

    H 44.9

    L 36.6

    31 year average:

    snow 37.5″

    rain 41.6″

    H 40.0

    L 30.4

    6 year average at 1360 feet

    snow 39.0″

    rain 42.1″

    H 40.2

    L 31.1

    All 8 enso plus of 1c or greater in 31 years:

    snow 17.5

    rain 37.2

    H 43.2

    L 29.5

    Of course does not include some crazy snow amounts I’ve had in March and April or any other observations from November, March or April. I also don’t see any real trends here from climate change, but I do see warmer days, colder nights and less rain and snow during enso positive years. I have to run the numbers for enso negative years before I can say anything about that.

    Just sharing anyway. One more observation, I have only had 7 inches of snow and not more than 1.5 on any given day this year outside of 19 inches during the arctic event in January.

  21. WEATHERDAN says:

    Heavy snow falling and sticking to cars and shrubs and a little on the grass. Temperature has fallen to 34 at my house (elevation 210 ft. ). We might not hit above 40 today, and thus might have sticking snow here in Salem tonight. Peace

  22. West Linn 200 says:

    First signs of Spring on the 12 GFS. Bring on the ridging baby!

    https://media1.tenor.com/m/Ommaq2OYnx8AAAAC/excited-hype.gif

  23. Roland Derksen says:

    Some snow here on the ground this morning(about a quarter of an inch) This weather pattern is really not all that unusual for early March. I’ve seen a lot more snow sometimes at the start of the month.

  24. Drew says:

    We got a solid 2 inches of accumulated snowfall this morning just south of Sherwood at 500’. Very excited.

  25. Andy says:

    Another covering of snow here in Albany 33f…1/2 inch. Surprised the road was covered.

  26. WEATHERDAN says:

    Heavy snow this morning at around 9:15AM. In the air only at 210 ft. Springs seem be getting cooler until late April. Summers however seem to be getting much hotter until late October. A win win situation for me. I like snowy Winters and hot Summers. And yes I was born and have always lived in Salem. And I detest our cool wet Winters. Peace.

  27. 550’ in Cedar Mill says:

    We are accumulating snow here with the heavy band moving through. Very peaceful looking and a solid dusting on the ground and tree tops.

    Seems like late season snows are an every winter thing lately

  28. Andy says:

    Nice burst of snow here in Albany earlier… snow covered everything. Temp dropped to 33F on my station. It’s melting away now.

  29. UGH says:

    El Niño was/is a dud for sure this time around. Was really hoping for better weather than last winter. But I guess it doesn’t matter much in the PNW, we’ll always get shafted any way you slice it.

    • Anonymous says:

      What?? Did you forget about January?

      • UGH says:

        Not a fan of lowland “snow” around these parts. Always turns to ice and then becomes a nightmare until it goes away. This year I was lucky enough to have my basement leak and seep water (which turned into a demo and rebuild) so I’m especially bummed on the January event. Honestly I was hoping for a “drier and warmer” El Nino this year.

  30. WEATHERDAN says:

    Rain/snow mix and 36 in Salem at 9:00PM. Peace.

  31. West Linn 200 says:

    This may be the third (or more?) March in a row to start off cold/wet if models verify. Seems to be the new pattern I guess. I thought El Nino might give us something different this year, but maybe not.

    • West Linn 200 says:

      Actually looking at the data, March 2022 doesn’t look so bad. It started off with a generous amount of rain, but plenty of mild temps and sunny days.

  32. WEATHERDAN says:

    Temperature in Salem dropped from 48 to 43 in 15 minutes between 12:45AM and 1:00AM. Fropa must have occured at KSLE at 12:40AM. 6 hr rainfall was approx .70. Glad to see the new post. Peace.

  33. Virginia Mayo says:

    Thanks…I think. But thanks!

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