Evening Update: Change to Snow At Lower Elevations Less Likely

February 11, 2019

9:30pm Monday…

A quick update since I’m on all six shows this evening, a little busy on-air!  You can find me there on FOX12 Plus (Ch. 13 or 49) until 10pm and then on FOX12 through 11pm.

00z models are all in except the ECMWF.  The biggest thing I see is that the CHANCE FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL IN THE METRO AREA HAS GONE DOWN from this morning.

  1. GFS, GEM, NAM continue to show no snow in the lowlands.  No change there
  2. WRF-GFS has backed off on snow, that’s the big change this evening since it was the biggest proponent of metro-wide snowfall.

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This seems reasonable.  Little/no sticking snow in the lowest elevations, or at least not enough to affect our morning commute.

But up to 2″ heavy/wet snow around 1,000′ and above in West Hills, Chehalem Mtn, Mt. Scott etc…  Plus any of the foothill communities in east Clark, Multnomah, & Clackamas counties may see 2-6″ inches of snow from 4am-10am.  I’m thinking Battle Ground, Camas, Washougal, Corbett, Gresham, Sandy, Damascus, Estacada.  Then down to Mill City & Sweet Home.

3. HRRR and our RPM model keep showing at least a little snow but have backed off a bit too.  Here’s the HRRR, showing at least a half-inch across mainly areas east of I-5.

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But tomorrow is the type of morning you want to wake up early, look out the window and check out the Good Day Oregon gang here on FOX12.  They’ll have all the latest.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

Winter Storm Watch and Flood Watch at the same time? Complicated 24 hours ahead!

February 11, 2019

11:30am Monday…

Are we going to wake up to a flood Tuesday?  And have a bunch of snow at the same time?  What?  Whew…weather fatigue!  Here’s the scoop


A very wet stationary front sits over us tonight and early Tuesday, then moves to our south.  It’s gonna pour between this evening and Tuesday morning’s commute, maybe up to 2″ of rain in 12 hours or so!  That’s the major weather story for the next 24 hours.

  • We’ll see localized flooding of creeks, low areas, basements, etc… for Tuesday morning’s commute.  Could be messy!
  • Then tomorrow’s rain will be more off/on
  • At the tail end of the system late tonight, temperatures MAY cool just enough that heavy rain changes to heavy/wet snow for a few hours in some part of the metro area.  There’s a relatively low chance of this happening (see models below), but obviously a big deal if it happens in your area.
  • The NWS has issued a Winter Storm Watch for that possibility.  It’s a WATCH which means it’s just a possibility.At this point this doesn’t appear to be a metro-wide snow event.
  • After evening models come in (around 8pm or so) we should have a much better idea if there’s going to be any brief changeover to snow.


All models agree that we’re getting a huge soaking tonight.  Check out the 24 rainfall from this afternoon to Tuesday PM on the WRF.  1.5 to 2.5″ in the metro area all the way down to Eugene!


So that’s the easy part of the forecast.  Snow levels climb up to around 3,500′ this afternoon and tonight; no chance for snow through midnight except in the central/eastern Gorge.

Of course the big question is whether we get an “isothermal atmosphere” on the back side of the front.  That means precipitation is so heavy that the column of air overhead cools right down to freezing from 3,000′ or more on down  It allows those huge snowflakes to make it all the way down to sea-level, or at least to your home.  All morning models are in and only the WRF and HRRR models are showing that happening in any sort of widespread fashion.  ECMWF says it may happen in western Washington county (Hillsboro westward to Coast Range).  Other than that, ECMWF, GEM, GFS all say forget about it.  All three models here

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I have seen this happen in the past, Halloween 1993 and November 2003.  Both those times it was the east/southeast metro area, spots like Gresham, Corbett, Sandy, Damascus, Estacada and south as the back edge of steady/heavy precip moved through.  IF it happens, I think that would be the most likely area as the WRF-GFS shows, although it shows temps cold enough for hills in the entire metro area to get in on the action


To wrap it up, there’s no reason to suspect we’ll have a white, snowy, hellish AM commute tomorrow.  But there’s good reason to think we’ll have a watery, messy, AM commute.  And keep a very close eye on this blog and FOX12 through the evening and morning hours tomorrow.  I’ll be on TV much of the time between 5:00-11:30pm tonight.  I’ve got you covered!

BTW, this entire time a huge snowstorm continues in the Cascades and to a lesser extent the central/eastern Gorge.  Possibly up to a foot of extra snow east of Bonneville Dam in the Gorge.   It appears 20″ have fallen since midday yesterday on Mt. Hood!  More “feet to go” up there.  Please be careful and ski with a friend, stay away from tree wells which can be dangerous during these massive snow storms.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen