11pm Wednesday: NWS Drops Winter Storm Watch For Some

February 1, 2017

This evening the trend in models/observations continues to be the same:

  1. We don’t have a “storm” coming, but maybe 18 hours in which a mix of frozen precipitation may fall for most of us in the metro area
  2. Any snow will be brief and light late tomorrow afternoon/evening.  Your life should be affected all that much.

Since we’re getting closer to the event and models still have quite light precipitation forecast, I lowered the snow forecast slightly for the metro area:


Due to the warming air overhead tomorrow evening and light precipitation, the NWS has converted the Winter Storm Watch to just a regular Winter Weather Advisory for all areas west of the Cascades away from the Gorge outflow zone (metro area).  For most of you this will be a brief freezing rain episode tomorrow evening through daybreak Friday, then you go above freezing:




I’m a bit concerned that temperatures are running relatively warm.  But, just like the last event (or was it two back?) the downsloping wind off the Cascades may be adding a little bit of “warming”.   Still, temperatures in the mid/upper 20s at Hood River with easterly is a bit warmer than we typically see for freezing conditions with ice/snow storms in Portland.  Another reason I’m thinking this isn’t going to be that big of a deal for areas west of the Cascades.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

Prepare For Some Brief Snow, Then Freezing Rain

February 1, 2017

Noon Wednesday:

Luckily the general sequence of weather events the next 2 days is still on track from yesterday’s post.  But of course as we get closer to these snow/ice events we can give you more detail.

First, it’s pretty obvious the cold air has arrived.  A very deep pool of cold-air has taken up residence east of the Cascades and is spilling through the Columbia River Gorge.  It’s deep enough that the air is spilling right over the Cascades too; that’s why all of us in the metro area are seeing the strong wind gusts.  That continues through Thursday, then backs off dramatically Friday.  Stay warm!


  • This event will include far more freezing rain then snow, I doubt kids will be making snowmen this time around.
  • Cold and windy through Thursday, lots of clouds and even flurries are possible through midday Thursday.  This WILL NOT AFFECT ROADS.
  • Thursday AM should be dry for a clear commute.
  • A wave of snow showers or even steady light snow moves through our area 4-9pm tomorrow afternoon/evening, it’ll spread from south to north, arriving in Salem as early as noon or just beyond.
  •  A Trace to 1″ snow is likely for most of us in the western valleys before a transition to freezing rain tomorrow night.
  • Heavier precipitation (freezing rain) should be here for the Friday AM commute, with temps mainly below freezing for most areas west of the Cascades.
  • It’s possible that Friday afternoon many of us will see mainly wet roads south/west/north metro away from the Gorge.  This happened during the last two freezing rain events when we thought a large area would see freezing rain and instead it was confined to the central/east metro area.  In general conditions IMPROVE during the day Friday.
  • So an ice storm (with tree/powerline damage) is unlikely west of the Cascades or in most of the metro area.  Temperatures gradually warm above freezing most areas on Friday afternoon.
  • A warming southerly wind late Friday night or early Saturday ends the freezing rain threat outside of the Gorge at that time.



Tomorrow morning will be dry, or just flurries.  Tomorrow evening is a tough one.  You wouldn’t expect a trace to 1″ snow tomorrow evening to cause a commuting nightmare AGAIN right???

But 3 big issues…

1) A PBOT official mentioned on-air yesterday that they would “consider using salt in the future” which I assume means they have no plan to use it the next few days.  Translation: expect frozen/icy roads = if you don’t have 4×4 and/or chains you may have trouble.

2) ODOT will likely use some salt in spots again (remember how clear uphill/westbound 26 was at Sylvan after the snowstorm?).  If not, freeways could become a frozen hell again tomorrow evening since whatever chemical they sprayed on roads didn’t seem to have any effect during the last two evening traffic chaos events.  Roads froze anyway.

3) Our freeways are jammed in the evenings any typical day; I covered that in the summary of the December 14 freeway gridlock.




For the metro area I wouldn’t cancel school, but keep a close eye on the radar in case precipitation is arriving hours ahead of time and kids need to get home before 4pm.  If our forecast is correct, buses should have no problem dropping kids off during that 2-4pm time period.  Friday will likely be a snow (ice) day since most areas will see icy roads to start.


Sorry, more snow!  4-8″ from Thursday evening through Friday night central/eastern Gorge (east of Multnomah Falls).  Freezing rain west of Multnomah Falls after tomorrow evening’s 1-2″ snowfall.


Too warm for snow or freezing rain, although maybe a valley near the Coast Range could see brief freezing rain Friday AM.



Models weren’t dramatically different either last night or this morning.  They are all quite light on precipitation tomorrow afternoon evening.  Check out the ECMWF total precip ending 10pm tomorrow


That’s enough for a grand total of 1″ at most, the reason I’m thinking we’ll get very little snow out of this.  Also, there is plenty of above-freezing air moving in overhead tomorrow evening.  Check out the WRF sounding for 7pm tomorrow.


That’s likely freezing rain not snow.  And the warming continues through the night.  While talking to Brian MacMillan this morning we noted that was the ONE THING that models have nailed in every weather event this winter, the profile of the atmosphere overhead.  In general, snow has transitioned to freezing rain when we expected it to in each storm.  It’s actually easier to forecast what’s going on at 3,000′ then here at the surface.  Due to all this I’m pretty confident this is more of a freezing rain event than snow.  No model right now is showing any significant snow west of the Cascades.  The WRF does have some decent precipitation over the mid-valley tomorrow midday/early afternoon, but thinks temperatures may be a little too warm for significant accumulation.

As mentioned yesterday this cold air mass at the surface isn’t as cold as what we saw during the last two events.  So it’ll be easier for temps to rise above freezing in much of the metro area Friday midday/afternoon.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen