Vacation Time


Cue the Mark vacation jokes in 3…2…1…

I’ll be off on vacation for a wedding and a little trip up to B.C. mountain biking, plus painting my house through next week.  I’ll miss 6 work days and be back on Sunday the 24th.  Likely no posts during that time.

It’s the best & warmest weather of the year in the Pacific Northwest (mid-July to mid-August) so get outside and enjoy it!

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen


106 Responses to Vacation Time

  1. Paul D says:


    Did you get that honey-do list shortened?

  2. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    Nice chilly 48 for a low here in Battle Ground.

  3. Anonymous says:

    As a longtime lurker I for one appreciate WeatherDans comments. I appreciate all comments right or wrong. And I personally get sick of people with their rude comments towards him. Others who have very thoughtful insights have been run off this blog for this very reason. To Chris S and others what about the golden rule-if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all. Dan is commenting on the weather. His thoughts-right or wrong are just thoughts! not the gospel. Many of us read this blog all the time to see people’s thoughts about the Weather! unfortunately technology has created many keyboard warriors.. Keep up posting the thoughts Dan and others. Negative nellies and trolls there are many other places on the internet in the world we live in to express negative thoughts. Lets talk about the weather here! Bring on the heat! Peace!

    • chris s says:

      Lol to funny. We do talk about the weather. Its just trying to clear up all the wrong and non factual information Alter Dan spouts that you are seeing. Oh and Fyi Dan, it was another negative departure day at Salem yesterday, i know i know, that isn’t possible since this summer is so gosh darn above avg temp wise!!! And that heat wave that your trusty long range gfs was showing is watered down to nothing but 2 days now, although im sure you noticed. !! Good luck in that “Quite” warm August call, your’re gonna need it!!

    • ThreeStrikeMike says:

      At least post as WeatherDon or something, lol.

    • Mike near Clackamas Town Center says:

      I’m still waiting for you to make a prognostication of your own, Chris. 😉
      All I see from you anymore is just comments aimed ag egging him on.

    • Mike near Clackamas Town Center says:


  4. WEATHERDAN says:

    77 yesterday and 77 at 3:45 PM under sunny skies headed for 81. Sunday should be somewhere in the upper 80,s. The next week looks warm to hot. What a nice way to finish out the first half of Summer. Very nice NE breeze this afternoon. All we got out of the last system was a trace. So far on the month just .41. July continues to be warmer and drier than normal. Peace.

    • Chris s says:

      Lol give it up Dan, Salem is still running ever so slightly below avg temp wise for the month through today, and today won’t be changing that at all. Honestly your idiotic warm biased stuff that you post just gets old. You tried to claim last month was way warmer than avg, yet it was because of basically 3 ridiculously warm days that made it that way, otherwise June was a below avg month the rest of the way. And as usual, you are claiming August is gonna be hot as well. Good luck with that

  5. Boring Oregon says:

    I woke up yesterday very surprised to see rain coming down. Ended up with 0.30in for the day. That brings the month total up to 1.40in for the month. Today it’s still cloudy/mostly cloudy and it’s 68°. Maybe by later this afternoon or tomorrow it’ll finally start warming up and we get into the 80s.

  6. Generally speaking, if we don’t get our warmest temperatures of the summer by late July, I’ve noticed a second peak that comes around the 2nd week of August. It can come even later than that (i.e late August 1974, early September 2011) but that’s rare.

  7. 0.59″ total today. Never really got sunny at all. Weekend looks warmer and drier. Will probably see some 80s here next week.

  8. WEATHERDAN says:

    No rain in Salem overnight. 76 this afternoon. Feels humid outside today. 61 last night which continues our Summer of warm overnight temperatures. Next week the daytime heats up as well. Peace.

    • Boydo3 N. Albany says:

      It does look like it’s gonna get toasty next week.
      The last several weeks sure felt nice…
      The law of averages gets to play.

    • Paul D says:

      Here comes the heat – right after I get home…..

      Nailed that prediction! Wished I was wrong.

  9. A few rumbles of thunder last night, then steady rain since some time before dawn up this way. 0.40″ in the gauge this morning. Still coming down. Has the feel of a widespread rain to it, but radar indicates it’s just slow-moving showers parked over me.

    • We missed the main action here by a few miles. I heard thunder a few times overnight but no precipitation. Some “downpours” reported in the Fraser valley (Langley, ect.) and even hail in Burnaby (a few miles east of my location). Now just partly cloudy skies but breezy.

    • Rain is done, but still overcast and cool today. Haven’t seen any sunshine yet, though I expect cloud breaks and warming this afternoon.

  10. WEATHERDAN says:

    84 today. 78 on Friday with a big warm up on Saturday. We now are nearly 1 full degree warmer than normal for July. (minimum+maximum). by the 31st we should be somewhere between 2-3 degrees warmer than normal and just a little drier than normal. I think because we are a lot cooler than last year some people think we are having a cold Summer. But that is not the case. Now August is looking quite warm. This is very similar to 1987. Only 157 days until Christmas. Ho ho ho. Peace.

    • Garron 1/3 of a mile from Hillsboro Airport says:

      It was quite a bit warmer today, especially North valley locations this time than forecast. Not sure if the 90 degree temps at (5:15PM)KPDX will count as our first 90 of July, but it is looking like we’re gonna burn rubber into summer the last 9 days of the month!

      Such a change in temps currently from Mc Minnville to Portland, kinda fun to watch the weather roll in! And always watch for the stray albino’s in this situation!

      Like I posted a while back, (IMO) we are over due for a scorching hot 2nd ~1/2 of summer. Last several summers’ we peaked by about now. Maybe, we peak from now through the 2nd week of September? Time to make our guesses now: What will the 2nd 1/2 of summer be like???

    • W7ENK says:

      Jeezus Dan, you can stop now. I think it’s dead!

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      Oh no Eric! It’s only just begun! As for the second half of Summer I think it will be warmer than normal, but not hot. Number of July days over 90, 2-3. August 6-8, and September 2-4. So another 10-17 days.Peace. Now watch the trolls come out of the woodwork. Peace

    • Which if it comes to pass overall would be a result very much like I was forecasting this summer to be: warmer than average, but significantly cooler than last year.

  11. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    Check out the showers off the coast!

  12. Dizzyland says:

    48F two nights a go and 54F for this mornings low. Right where it should be.

    The morning before the 48F it was not below 60F.

    Is there any other decent weather forums that have a thread and/or seciton about the Pacific Northwest OTHER then
    The Crappy Weather with their constant drunkness and bickering like they are doped up hippies?

    I used to frequent Accu Weather forums but they tend to mostly focus on the NE corridor too much and their west section totally dead.

  13. WEATHERDAN says:

    79 and mostly sunny at 1:00 PM. A few AC around. 85 likely again today. High for the month so far is 87. May be an isolated TRW tonight but not widespread. After Friday we have a long spread of warm to hot weather ahead. CPC has the Midwest going below normal for temperatures within a week. The heat seems to be moving West. Peace.

    • runrain says:

      99 for both Fri and Sat next week per The Weather Channel.

    • Garron 1/3 of a mile from Hillsboro Airport says:

      Um, I must’ve missed something on the local forecast for today? I don’t think it was supposed to reach nearly 90 here today, it’s 88 now? And, wasn’t there supposed to be another little system moving in tonight? Not that I’m complaining…

  14. W7ENK says:

    Lots of ACCAS around this morning, indicating some mid-level instability.

    Slowly moving North out of the Portland area, which means Olympia/Tacoma/Seattle should get some decent thunderstorm action this afternoon and evening, while we get absolutely nothing down here… per the usual. Seen it a hundred times.

    • Anonymous says:

      There’s cumulus here in Downtown Seattle right now but no thunderstorms. Radar shows some action moving northwards over the Cascades. Northern edge appears to be hitting the eastern slope of Snoqualmie Pass, but I-90 cameras don’t show that much interesting happening at the moment.

    • No excitement here in Downtown Seattle so far. Radar shows some action is happening in the Cascades, and the “Easton Hill” WSDOT webcam shows a downpour is happening there. All the other ones look dry as of now. Small, but intense.

    • W7ENK says:

      Well, I pretty much nailed that one to the wall, huh? Spot on!

      Thunderstorms with spectacular lightning reported overnight from West Olympia up through the Puget Sound region — Tacoma, Shoreline (North Seattle) and Sequim. Nothing South of there down this way.

      Now, down here we’re just left with slop — a thick marine stratus replete with drizzle so heavy it qualifies as a steady light rain…

      The sun comes back tomorrow, it’s gonna be muggy!

  15. lilfoot123 says:

    The weather channel has upped the % of thunderstorms to 60% this evening in Cowlitz county area! Does anyone know which direction they will be coming from?

  16. Anonymous says:

    The weather channel has upped the % of thunderstorms to 60% this evening in Cowlitz county area! Does anyone know which direction they will be coming from?

  17. My first clear morning of the month here- no clouds to be seen. Going to reach the 80’s for sure. I just did a survey of my past 42 summers(including the present one) for the first 30 days (June 21-July20) mean temperature. 2016 is somewhere near the middle of the pack with 65.4 F (median average is 65.3F). Last year’s is of course by far the warmest with an average of 72.1F.

  18. runrain says:

    Weather Channel now showing upper 90’s in Portland for the last weekend of July. (Insert usual disclaimers here: 10 days out, it’s the Weather Channel, etc., etc.)

  19. WEATHERDAN says:

    What a beautiful evening we have tonight. 77 after a high of 85. Still in the 80s tomorrow with maybe an evening shower. Right around 80 on Friday then off to the races. We might see 2 or 3 days in the low 90,s before the month is over. If this warm weather verifies and because of the cloudy warm nights July might wind up being above normal as far as average temperature goes and below normal for rainfall. Ain’t that a kick in the head. May and June were warmer and drier than normal so despite some people thinking that this was a wet and cool Summer there is a good chance that it won’t be the case. Still a lot cooler that the last 2 Summers.Peace.

  20. Paul D says:

    Right on queue – I’m back home next week and we have above normal temperatures coming. I completely missed the below normal July weather. This is getting old.

    Somebody up there hates me…..

  21. WEATHERDAN says:

    61 again this morning. 72 now. Mid and long range charts continue to show trend towards warmer weather starting tomorrow. It may be possible that we wind up this month average for rainfall and temperature. We have .41 so far this month which is just about normal. Because of warm overnight lows we are fairly close to normal for temperature as well. It sure has been cloudy though. Odds are we see some snow this Winter. But I agree with Mark that it will be a fairly average Winter and not an epic one. Something on the order of 2006-2007. Based on long term trends I feel that our next cold snowy Winter will be 2018-2019. Recent cold and snowy Winters have been 68-69. 78-79, 88-89, 98-99, and 08-09. Is this just a coincidence or an unknown recurring pattern. We shall see. Peace.

    • Gee, 2006-07 was pretty epic up here- windstorms, heavy snowfalls. Although we didn’t have a long cold spell like 2008-09 with it. I’ll have to wait and watch.

    • Dizzyland says:

      The valley missed most of the action. Portland and areas north got hit really hard with those stuff however. Western Washington was brutally slammed.

  22. W7ENK says:

    Timelapse of lenticular clouds during our first sunset while camping beside Lake Selmac outside Cave Junction, OR.

    2 hours — July 9, 2016

  23. My first 80+F maximum of the month yesterday at 80.8F. Comparing that to July 2015, we had 12 days above the mark by the 19th.

  24. WEATHERDAN says:

    Very gloomy out today. 70 at noon and may not get much warmer today. But hey sun lovers help is on the way. Starting Tuesday we begin a big warm up. May be close to 80 by Wednesday and close to 90 by Sunday. So now the gloomsters have had their part of Summer we might get the rest. This morning was 61. This was the first low over 60 since early June. 4th on the Summer. Enjoy the clouds (ha ha) because the sun is coming back. Peace.

  25. Jason Hougak says:

    I don’t know why anybody is complaining about this weather, it’s amazing. After last couple summers we are due for a summer like this and many more. We never broke 66 degrees yesterday, awesome!

    • runrain says:

      Very comfortable, although quite gloomy. The sun never came out even once in Happy Valley. A pretty rare day in July when there is zero sun. Going to have an unusually low electric bill this month for a July. Can’t remember when I last ran the central air.

      Speaking of sun, my 100% shot-in-the-dark guesstimate a week ago of a 90 degree day on July 24th may actually happen! We’re trending that way, anyway.

    • JERAT416 says:

      90? Where, Redding? I see no hint of that . However it wouldn’t be at all out of place. I don’t think average is cold, however I do prefer the 78-83 degree summer weather with various amount of morning clouds.

    • runrain says:

      Well, I’m seeing an 84 or 85 here and there, so in the general neighborhood. Redding is prob looking more like 100 by Sunday.

    • runrain says:

      Redding forecast to hit 104 Sunday. At least right now, that is.

  26. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    If it stays (which I’m pretty sure it will) this would be my first 60+ low for the year. Last year at this time I had 6 by this time.

    I know PDX has had many more though.

  27. Dizzyland says:

    The sign should’ve said Gone Fishing kinda like this Thomas The Train Song from 1992:

  28. WEATHERDAN says:

    72 and mostly cloudy at 1:00 PM. Some sun breaks today making it feel kind of muggy. Our warmth returns by Wednesday for a long stretch of 80,s. As for 1987 in Salem May and June was warm. Then we had a cool and wet July. Over 3 inches fell that month. August was hot with us hitting 100 on August 30th. September and October were sunny and warm as well. November was cool and wet but not cold. But between about December 10th and January 10th we had a lot of cold and snow. Then on January 10th we had a big windstorm with some gusts in the valley to about 70MPH. After that it was an average Winter. Will we see a repeat. Who knows, but it sure would be nice to have a Winter like that again. Peace.

    • Dizzyland says:

      Any school closures back then you suppose or major power cuts?

      Yippee! First high below 80F in a loooooooooooong time! I wouldn’t mind the rest of the summer being this way. It’s been muggy in the afternoons.

  29. Jason Hougak says:

    Weather man… who needs a weatherman??? Just open your big eyes and look out the freaking window… geez!!!
    I love this mild cloudy weather, perfect for getting stuff done.

    • Paul D says:

      Minimum sweat = maximum work.

    • Dizzyland says:

      I agree. Weather man mostly focuses on the airport weather which hardly represents most cities even.

      Think of the Denver airport situation where they have two completely different patterns between downtown and the airport that gets the Plains weather.

  30. jimbo says:

    This July feels like June. How about julune? Does that work?

  31. Anonymous says:

    July feels like a typical June. How about julune? Does that sound right?

  32. WEATHERDAN says:

    Partly cloudy and 77 so far today. Low was 59. Max was -5 from average but low was+6 from average so we are slightly above normal for the date. Actually felt nice out today. Big Western ridge looks to move closer to us by next weekend. Not close enough yet for big heat wave but close enough to get us back to the 80,s on a consistent basis. 1983 this Summer is not but maybe more like 1987. Go check it out if you want. I will say that the Winter of 87-88 had some cold and snow and a big windstorm as well. Or as Casey Stengel once said you could look it up. Peace to all and God bless the USA.

    • JJ78259 says:

      I remember 87 started raining right after Labor Day and did not stop. It was a cold winter some really great skiing. I bought new new skis and boots and used the hell out of them that winter. My last single year got ingaged the following.

    • I recall the “Indian Summer” (September, October) actually being sunnier than the summer of 1987.

    • Chris s says:

      Spreading lies again Dan, as usual. High in Salem yesterday was not 77, but whatever gets your warm bias stars to pan out, you will use. Looks like the official high ended up being 75, and even that’s questionable, as it looks as though it should have been 74. Either way, yesterday was another negative departure day. That is all, mr facts man.

    • Mike near Clackamas Town Center says:

      Those below normal temps will be ending soon. Back to real Summer is coming. This morning’s GFS 12z op run and ensembles.

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      Hey Christine go Felne yourself. See you around sport.

    • JJ78259 says:

      Another 99 degree afternoon here no warm bias needed in San Antonio. A great pool volley ball game going on right now. Uncle Weatherdan obviously needs to get heated up soon! I have to agree with Dan though I love the heat!!! I never have to wait to long for warm weather. My serve……!!

    • chris s says:

      Poor alter Dan, every time facts are presented, he calls someone names or something. I know your’re old, but you act as though you are like a 3rd grader. Its ok, no need for facts when discussing weather, we will just use your biased view, and recollections.

    • @Mike near Clackamas Town Center – That belongs in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” category. For the last month or so, models have been promising a hot spell Real Soon Now, but it always keeps receding a week or two into the future.

      Was in the mountains east of Eugene for a few days. Drove back home today. Clouds started breaking up around Centralia. Thanks to that it actually got warmer in the Seattle area today than it did in the Willamette Valley. 79 for a max at Boeing Field versus only 72 at PDX.

      Never had to run the A/C once on the drive back; open windows and the vent fan sufficed. Last year it would have probably been in the 90s most of that drive.

    • Mike near Clackamas Town Center says:

      Well lets have a look now at the ensembles now. Today’s GFS 12z. Oh yeah, average to above average temps are well within the forecast range now. We propbably won’t see below normal temps again until sometime in September.
      Ya’ll didn’t think the cool stuff would last all Summer, did ya?lol

  33. MasterNate says:

    Best July Ever!! Looking forward to cooler Winter hopefully.

    • Jason Hougak says:

      I totally agree, keep the perfect summer rolling.

    • Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

      It has been a little cloudy for my liking, but I’m loving the temperatures.

      I do remember 2011 and 2012 when we didn’t have very nice July’s. It was like winter just rolled on for 2 years. That sucked! I like the variety!

  34. Jason Hougak says:

    The weather this time of year doesn’t need a weather man so have fun Mark, see you in November when the real weather begins!

  35. WEATHERDAN says:

    Cool start this morning at 52 and we even had partly cloudy skies for about 3 hours. 72 now and sunny. Heading for about 80 today. Yesterday was 84. Tomorrow and Sunday look similar to today. After that we cool down to the mid 70,s early next week then we start a warm up that looks to last the rest of the month. This really has been a really nice Summer this year. Just about average as Mark pointed out earlier this week. Maybe this will lead into an average Winter as well. Enduring the big Art fair this weekend. Draws about 100,000 visitors each year, but it clogs the neighborhood streets. Can’t wait until Sunday. Peace.

  36. Happy St.Swithin’s Day everyone- I hope it’s sunny where you live-here it isn’t, but at least it’s not raining.Just want to relate a story about this date 30 years ago. In 1986, we went through an unusually cloudy and wet spring, so as summer approached us Vancouverites (that’s what we call ourselves here in BC) desperately longed for a good summer. Well, the first 2 -3 weeks of June were fine, but as summer began, the clouds returned and by early July we were back into the old weather pattern. On the 15th-17th,however, things really hit the bottom as we had overcast skies with periods of drizzle and rain. It wasn’t the amount of rain that was so bad (1.34 inches in total) but the gloomy low cloud conditions. Because of that, the range in temperature in those 72 hours between maximum and minimum was just 5F. In addition, the clouds were so thick, our streetlights came on over an hour before sunset! To add to the misery, my plum tree in the back yard, normally full of ripening fruit didn’t have a single plum on it. Anyway, with July more than half over, summer seemed far away. Well, improving conditions began on the 18th, and for the next 54 days, we hardly had a drop of rain. A big turnaround, and it became known as the glorious summer of “Expo 86” here. So, if you’re feeling down about this July’s weather, remember it can change! There’s still a lot of time to go.

  37. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:


    Ever had two sunsets on the same day in the same place? That will happen today in Fairbanks as the sun set at 12:00 AM this morning and will set again tonight at 11:57 PM.
    Sunrise today: 3:55 AM
    Sunset tonight: (12:00 AM this morning) and 11:57 PM tonight
    Tomorrow they lose 6:33

  38. Anonymous says:

    summertime is when people who have put their time in take their vacations! Have fun Mark.. people that complain about your vacation are jealous trolls!!

  39. Have a great time in Whistler, Mark! I should warn you, however, I just heard a forecast for possible thunder showers there tomorrow.

  40. Dizzyland says:

    Don’t go to Weather Forums today they are arguing if it will be colder or warmer. The Euro shows it being close to normal and so far it has been RIGHT at normal down here in the valley.

    Today the high has been upper 80s and low around 53. Just like summertime should be.

    No significant departures either direction so it’s useless to argue.

    It seems to take a massive forcing just to get to normal but non the less I enjoy it and you all should too.

  41. WEATHERDAN says:

    56 this morning, up to 79 at 1:00 PM. Should get up to 85 today. Normal is 82. Looking out a few days it seems like Summer is back by later next week. By that I mean a nice long stretch of 80-85 degree weather. No hot weather in sight but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a 90 or two in the central or Southern valley sometime the last week of the month. Over the weekend it looks like a lot of morning stratus especially North of Woodburn. The CPC has taken below temps out for the PAC NW in the 8-14 day outlook and replaced it with normal temps. They also have us as dry. Our last morning low sub 50 was 49 on June 16th. So even with the morning clouds we start out fairly warm. Yesterday it was 82 but felt cool. We have gotten so used to so much hot weather that normal July warm weather seems cool. Wonder what the weather was today in Paris for their Bastille Day Celebrations. Vive la Liberte. Peace.

    • Boydo3 N. Albany says:

      85 in Fairbanks today!

    • Dizzyland says:

      I don’t know where everybody is getting this Cold July idea from.

      I think last week is going to be our cold stretch and in the end this will be just a fine normal summary month. I think the entire winter is going to be just normal maybe slightly below but nothing extreme either way.

      I do see a lot of inversion this winter with fake Artic Airmass.

    • Paul D says:

      Heat wave starts July 26. Mark my words.

  42. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    And you always say I never work…

    47 for a low out here in BG. Nice and cool for mid-July.

  43. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Have fun, Mr. Mark!

  44. Didn’t you just get back from vacation?

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