Decreasing Daylight & A Warm Weekend

I just noticed that we’ve lost 2 hours of daylight since the longest day of the year in late June.  That’s a one hour later sunrise and one hour earlier sunset.  We’re at the time of year now where the daylight loss will accelerate. MarkDaylightDecreasing1  But the warm summer weather will continue!  We may get close to or hit 90 degrees again the middle of next week, so enjoy the milder weather over the weekend.  Skies look mainly (or all) clear west fo the Cascades away from the coastline.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

65 Responses to Decreasing Daylight & A Warm Weekend

  1. schmit44 says:

    8/23/2014 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:94 at Medford Viaduct(1360 ft) & CW6811 Grants Pa(947 ft)
    Low: 68 at EW4856 Brookings(1365 ft)

    High:42 at PRAWS 2 (HURRICA(8754 ft)
    Low: 29 at KIRK (4519 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 47 degrees
    PROVOLT SEED ORC (92/45 ) (1180 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.39″ at DW6879 Union(2792ft)
    0.33″ at CW1395 Ione(1060ft)
    0.32″ at CW1102 Wallowa(2946ft)
    0.29″ at PRAWS 2 (HURRICA(8754ft)
    0.15″ at Joseph State Air(4120ft)
    0.12″ at CW7508 Enterpris(3848ft)

  2. High Desert Mat says:

    57.5 and clear out at 10:25. Hope tomorrow brings more sun which I know it will. Welcome to central Oregon, the land of the sun, even in winter.

  3. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Uh oh.
    Mark’s gonna pull the big guns!

  4. High Desert Mat says:

    Geez guys. Enough already. Rub some dirt on it already and stop.

  5. snodaze says:

    LOL… Most of you dudes suck at weather blogs… Thanks for the laugh.

    • snodaze says:

      Haha… Let the putzes pile on rob… Pretty funny… I for one, can’t stand the music but think its cool you’re able to create something people like and will buy… Not sure I want to go through another winter season of good discussion with the current crop of (4 or 5) abject children though… Seems they find comfort in the long leash they’re given…

  6. The Bad Forecaster says:







    • High Desert Mat says:

      DJ Rob. Lol

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      Wow, how clever. Go eat a pile of sh!t

    • schmit44 says:

      Hi Rob,

      Would it be OK with you if I join your FB group ?
      I do indeed enjoy weather analysis

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      It’s a nice group. Just joined it. If only I had known sooner!

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Nice profanity Rob.

      Just goes to shows I have more dignity than you but I already knew that long ago when you hoisted that ridiculous list of people you chose to persecute. Wear your swastika proudly on your arm. We all know who your big all time hero is buddy.

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Come back with another one for me Rob. Do us a favor though and leave the profanity out of it. This is a family page even though it is past the bedtime for many kids here.

      Do you really think I will let you have the last say? If so you are seriously mistaken.

      This is what you get when you are mean to people and act like a dictator on your group. :/

    • Shane in Vancouver says:

      I really cant believe how personal this is getting and how ridiculous.. Grown ass men arguing and making fun of people like little kids. Seriously.. Mark used to mention this blog on the air and name drop a few of you and I bet now he’s embarassed he even created it half the time.. Go have a drink, chill the F out, come back and discuss the damn weather. Quit stalking each other and making everything so personal.. Life is short and everyone dies, why waste time calling someone out and creating drama on a weather blog that could be deleted in 5 minutes like a 15 year old school girl that just got left for her best friend at prom..end rant

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Originally what I was saying but apparently our comments have no affect. I guess let’s not reply to him anymore. That will fix it.

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      Go Hang yourself Brian and Greg. Worthless a$$holes

    • Shane in Vancouver says:

      Well i think the few have ruined this blog for the many because they dont know when to shut up and leave well enough alone and i wouldn’t blame mark for pulling the plug on the whole blog. He shouldn’t have to baby sit and i don’t think he can give anyone else access to baby sit either. yaaaaaaay… :/

    • I just recently joined PDX WX Analysis as well. Wish I had joined sooner 🙂

  7. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    It’s amazing how you can bash me with your hypocritical nonsense in this entire thread and no one says a word.

    Oh, and good job, Mark running your Blog. Real professional!

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Mark is a busy meteorologist. Don’t bring him into this.

      72 and clear in K-Falls.

    • High Desert Mat says:

      Get lost Rob. How dare you call out Mark. You just need to get outside from time to time, your really pasty. Unless your grounded by your mommy again?

    • High Desert Mat says:

      We all used to like your posts Rob. You are very insightful. Very knowledgeable about weather and the like. There’s just one problem, you cant take a joke or criticism. You lash out and attack, threat, and belittle people. Time to grow up a little.

      Said my peace and that’s all I’ll say about it. Temp 76 with partly cloudy skies currently.

    • schmit44 says:

      83 degrees here at BG Lake. RH a nice 29% with WNW winds increasing

    • Karl Bonner says:

      My favorite quote from Mark on February 27 this year: “Would you people prodding each other a couple days ago in the comments knock it off? Again…40+ year old guys acting like it’s middle school.”

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      I was out all day at the Gresham Farmers Market and other places which is none of your business. Thanks for your concern though. Apparently you need a re-cap as to why this BS nonsense is even going on.

      Rob – Southeast Portland says:
      August 15, 2014 at 4:40 pm

      4:41 PM CFS Long Range Outlook

      Since our weather is sooooo SLOWWWW right now, how about we look ahead shall we? Way far ahead. Let’s use the always trusty CFS model and look beyond day 40(no laughing!) I’m looking carefully for a few things. When do we see the first legit low pressure center crash into the coast of British Columbia. Next I’m looking for any cold air dropping down from British Columbia/Alberta with an Arctic front and thickness values dropping below 540.

      Day 57 – FCST HR 1074
      September 27th
      An estimated strong 985mb (29.09 in) low swings northeast near Northern Vancouver Island. The first real “storm” and perhaps signaling Fall starting a bit early.
      Now for the fun part…. Winter begins VERY early in 2014! Get excited I’m about to post it. Are you excited yet? Okay.

      Day 66 – FCST HR 1290
      October 6th
      Arctic front! Yep! The air mass isn’t the coldest, but then again it is early October. Arctic front surging quickly south through British Columbia/Alberta. A strong 1045mb high is nosing southward out of the Yukon.

      Day 67 – FCST HR 1314
      October 7th
      Cold air knocking on the door of the Canadian border thickness falling near 540.

      Day 68 – FCST HR 1338
      October 8th (Looks like a lock to me! Done deal!)
      Arctic air spilling south, and what’s this? MOISTURE. Oh really. 522 thickness nearing the Canadian border. 1042mb high along the BC/AB border. YWL-BLI gradient around -12mb out of the Fraser Gorge. Sharp northerly gradient through the Columbia Basin also looks like a OMK-PDT gradient of -12mb to -14mb! Snow looks possible for Bellingham-Everett and throughout the Columbia Basin. Very strong north-northeast winds Omak-Moses Lake-Ephrata-Pasco. Coldest air initially digs south, but slides more eastward with time.

      533 thickness at PDX falling to 526 after midnight. Unless the Columbia Basin were cold with an east wind Snow or even a mix is unlikely. Moisture seem to run out at the coldest air occurs too. Typical. We stay real chilly through Oct 11th as thickness climbs and cold air retreats back to the north.

      *This is only intended for entertainment purposes and I in no way of making a forecast or am actually excited, nor am I expecting any of this to occur. Well, the deep low on September 27th is a definite possibility. BUT this did get me in the mood for the Fall/Winter ahead and when we see computer models spitting out those outlandish numbers, the ridiculously cold air, or prospects for a big south wind storm. You gotta dream sometimes! You gotta believe in la-la land!


      schmit44 says:  
      August 15, 2014 at 11:58 pm 

      It seems as though the Rob-wishcasting-train has boarded at the SE PDX station

      Hmmm, just a fun post by myself here. It’s really hard to tell how this is joking with me. I don’t see a “lol” or, “hey man just playing around” There is in fact no intent shown to suggest this, because you weren’t. You were hoping I’d respond as I did, you were banking on it. You’re sick in the head. If you had made an effort to show me you were joking I would have obviously replied with, “Well, its the CFS, so we know we can trust it!” something along those lines. Since past history has proven you and others have indeed trolled my posts and provoked me it’s impossible for me to conclude that you’re joking, being sarcastic or otherwise. It’s really pathetic I have to explain myself or people are not smart enough to see right through this with their usual round of instigating, provoking, harassment, and antagonizing.

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      ? No idea why is formatted like that with the bold and larger fonts. Anyways, who cares.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Let’s not be a broken record here. C’mon, forgive and forget?

    • High Desert Mat says:

      I forgive and forget. I think everyone else should too. Sorry for what its worth. So anyone have anything “entertaining” or “interesting” to add about the weather. Maybe some ideas on the upcoming winter?

  8. High Desert Mat says:

    Been chilly here the last few nights. 40 two nights back and 43 last night. There’s a definite crisp on the air as soon as the sun gets low. I think the ULL last week did the trick. I can see a few highs in 90’s still but the long warm days are gone for the year I think, at least any prolonged stretch of them. Before we know it the freezing overnight lows will be here.

    • Shane in Vancouver says:

      The maple tree in my front yard has started dropping it’s seeds already. I’ll be raking leaves again before I know it but I’m def ready for the crisp fall season

  9. Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

    Well this is a bit too quiet (weather wise) for mid-late August. I figured another half dozen t’storms would have began accumulating to my total. Oh well. I guess hoarding storms too many too early has it’s downfall. Probably won’t get any until early September.

  10. schmit44 says:


    You need to consider making your own WordPress blog.

    • I am picturing a new Rob-blog where you can be in charge of everyone and ban anyone who disagrees with you.
    • I am imagining a blog where you can mislead people with outrageous forecasts for our area that never come true.
    • I am visualizing a blog where you can report wind speeds that are much higher at your house than surrounding stations.
    • I am envisioning a blog where you can brag about your music that nobody on earth cares to listen to.
    • I am conceptualizing a blog where you can tell EVERYONE how professional you are at everything you do.

    In the meantime you are ruining this blog experience for others with your personal non-weather related mental issues. The only reason you dragged this drama from the other thread is to get attention. I am speculating that the real “non internet” world you live in has zero “real life” friends.

    Kudos to Mark Nelsen for not intervening here and that is why you are so upset. Maybe he is tired of babysitting a full-grown adult who is in his mid 40’s? Maybe he finds it funny like others?
    I really can’t say for sure.

    I find it fascinating how nobody in your so-called super duper FB group is coming to your defense here. Its probably because you are a total embarrassment to them as well as yourself 🙂

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Amen Brian, nice idea. 🙂

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      I wonder how much more volleying we can expect for today, the next month, and the next year on this stuff besides what the main topic of this blog is supposed to be about which is weather. 🙂

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Years ago he told all of us he didn’t want be on here anymore. Perhaps he should have “practiced what he preached…” 😀

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      I’m ruining what? blah blah blah, meanwhile you and your idiots are posting excessive crap. Hypocrite.

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      Nobody cares on Earth to listen to my Music? As you say

      #4 on SoundClick out of 58,113 songs

      #8 on Amazon best sellers

      You jealous? apparently. You’re a worthless fkin prick

    • schmit44 says:

      Photoshop is wonderful isn’t it Rob. It allows you to be an industry fake. Ain’t computers wonderful?

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Oh boy! Just the kind of music I want to listen to. I can’t stand it when people play their bass in their cars so loud in the neighborhood that the windows and walls rattle. It is a violation of our privacy. I remember when I had a neighbor who did the same thing every night when I got home. I pounded on the wall so hard I knocked all the stuff off his wall and thought it was absolutely hilarious.

      Yep just what we need… More bass music to disturb the peace around the neighborhood. I can hardly wait to go out buy you next album Rob so I can throw it right in the garbage. 🙂

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Yep DJ Droppin alright. Right in my trash can if I get a hold of that music.

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:


  11. Tyler Mode says:

    49.5 here this morning. I could take a repeat of uppers 70s, though I know it’ll be warmer.

    Those shadows have that look of getting toward fall…

  12. Shane in Vancouver says:

    Lol this is supposed to be a WEATHER BLOG where people get together and forecast/wishcast and collectively BS about random things..This is starting to feel like facebook, or my old high school lunch period. If people cant get along, don’t respond to one another. IF everyone can contribute positively as adults, then please, by all means… I used to enjoy reading the blog and getting excited about the weather, now I just see whos pissing who off.. smh.

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Yeah Shane sadly there is more volleying back and forth here at each other than there is going on over in the Middle East I think. I think even the factions over there fighting against each other would think that things have been pretty comical here as of late and say simply one thing after reading it all…”Really?” Pretty sad when one person wants to be the center of attention and nobody else can because that person is hungry for power and control. It reminds me of someone who used to run Germany in the 1930’s and 40’s. 😦

    • Shane in Vancouver says:

      Go be the center of attention somewhere else then. Like i said before, its a weather blog, where people come to talk about the weather, or lack thereof. Everyone is entitled to their own wx analysis and intelligent conversation about the weather. Clearly people joke around sometimes and others need to lighten up. If people want to attack each other, go to Gaza or Ferguson, not here. I come here for the weather convo and the wishcasting, not Jerry Springer

    • WWM says:

      wow even after a day or two of reading the back and forth, the same little kids are still at it trying to instigate. Shane really hit it on the head go do this some place else. Really a shame this continues, this is supposed to be a weather blog not an internet WWF. Its really frustrating to see people who offer so much (Schmit, bad forecaster, Rob) to the weather community doing nothing more than stirring the pot, trying to get one guy to lose it and occasionally throwing in a weather fact or two. If you say you are going to let it go then please for all our sakes do it. who cares who is saying or doing what. go fight on your own site and invite him if you really want to waste your time doing that garbage.

      Mark I will speak for myself, I love this site and visit it a few times a week, but it gets so old reading the same three attacking the one (yes they are all guilty to some degree) it is old and readers are tired of it.

      Please guys…back to weather.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      We are very willing to let this go. We actually have no idea how it started. And somehow I’m involved. lol

    • Shane in Vancouver says:

      Can we at least try to let everything go? If there are people here with an issue with someone else, treat it like a work place and deal with it in private and not air everyones dirty laundry. Id hate for Mark to delete this whole blog over some people who need to just grow up and act their age. so either get along and drop it now or gtfo! Can we get back to weather please? I predict power outages, windstorms, snowstorms and a fantistic winter and holiday season!

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Back to weather we go!


    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Apparently this attempt of mine failed. I apologize Shane 😉

  13. schmit44 says:

    8/22/2014 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:87 at CW6811 Grants Pa( 947 ft) & ILLINOIS VALLEY(1389 ft) & UMATILLA RIVER N(363 ft)
    Low: 65 at Rye Valley(I-84(2230 ft)

    High:46 at PRAWS 2 (HURRICA(8754 ft) & MT. HOWARD(7910 ft)
    Low: 25 at KIRK (4519 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 44 degrees
    KLAMATH NWR (73/29 ) (4531 ft )
    Sand Creek (US 9 (72/28) (4525 ft)
    KIRK (69/25) (4519 ft)

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    1.86″ at CW1102 Wallowa(2946ft)
    1.14″ at CW2049 Imnaha(1978ft)
    1.02″ at DW9612 Umapine(797ft)
    0.97″ at ROBERTS BUTTE(4263ft)
    0.64″ at IRAWS 40 (SADDLE(6592ft)

  14. The Bad Forecaster says:


    Forecast me some cooler weather for sure as we close in on September here. My cardiologist basically says there is no sign of a return to the plural infusion I had over my right lung back in March that kept me in the hospital for 13 days. My cardiologist also said that my latest echo-cardiogram looked fine. The mechanical aortic valve is operating normally and the heart as a whole seems to be functioning strongly. I was basically told by the cardiologist “Get out and go to The Mountain (Mount Rainier) and enjoy yourself”.

    It will probably be Monday since it will be FREE in all parks to enter for the day because all parks will be celebrating the birthday of the National Park Service.

  15. Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

    77 / 40 today here. Yesterday it was 82 / 42.

    Crisp mornings are more than welcome here. No A/C and a phenomenal stretch of 90’s pushed my indoor temperature way high. A few days in late July got to 86 in the living room. I had my window open last 2 nights to take advantage of these lows! Will do the same!

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Down to 49 here in SE Tacoma this morning after yesterday’s low of 48. The highs have been in the low 70’s which has allowed me to get outside more without burning up in the hot sun.

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      By the way Tim, I think I finally figured out how to program quarterback ratings on this thing in EXCEL. Like Mariners stats I am also doing Seahawks stats and Blazers stats once again. I hope no one asks me to do soccer because I am really not a soccer fan. I used to like to play it though in my younger years.

  16. The Bad Forecaster says:

    I agree Tim, I am here with the same thought as you as long as we don’t see anymore spouts of anger against us and are treated like the bad guys that none of us are.

  17. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    Thanks for the update, Mark

    I hope the fun from the past few threads continues and continues, on and on forever. I literally can’t wait.

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Oh it will as long as you keep mentioning it Rob. 🙂

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      I’m willing to let it go. Are you willing to? (facepalm) We’re adults.

    • The Bad Forecaster says:

      Okay I am done posting about this over and over. It is a waste of time. On to something more weather related… :/

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      Timmy, after the things you said to me when you guys were stalking me on YouTube, you’re either stupid or insane to even reply to me. I hope for your sake that we never run into each other. Take that as a threat if you want, that’s what happens when you resort to saying the extremely low and evil things you did. Unspeakable. Unforgivable.

      Not bad guys? Who harassed anyone for 2 years even when you are blocked from any contact? You then harassed me on YouTube and now a Fishing Forum. Not bad guys? The deeply personal things you said to me, and about me, and worst of all about my Father? Nah, not bad guys. You’re all friggin mentally ill.

      I don’t want to sit here wasting my time typing/talking to any of you(in the gang) understand? I just made the stupid mistake of posting that fun and obviously ridiculous CFS Long Range outlook. You guys took it from there, like usual AND you want to talk to me about “letting it go” stuff it. The typical same old song and dance of instigating, provoking, and antagonizing someone, but then you’re willing to let it go, just forgive. Unreal. Practice what you preach hypocrites.

      Do not respond to me out of RESPECT to the other Bloggers. Don’t do it. Just don’t bother.

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