Saturday’s Scavenger Hike: Hard Work and No Reward

I mentioned on a FB posting on Friday that I might try hiking from Women’s Forum viewpoint over to Crown Point on Saturday because everything is dry and/or frozen.  I did it, it was a ton of work, and I won’t do it again.

First, I don’t recommend anyone else waste their time because there is no trail (I knew that), and it’s pretty steep near the top.   And in muddy conditions it would be dangerous.  So where did I go?  Take a look at the map from the DOGAMI lidar viewer page.  Can you see the old road that once went from the train tracks at Rooster Rock to Women’s Forum State Park?  Parts of it are visible on the first map.


Women’s Forum used to be called Chanticleer Point and there was a famous restaurant there.

chanticleercard chanticleer4

People would take the train from Portland, get off, and get a ride up to the top for a nice dinner.


Now here is the route I took in red, which is the old road, now just a trail in spots.  The yellow shows where I left the trail and headed uphill (bushwacking) until I got close to cliffs.  There is only one gap between the cliffs where you can climb straight up towards Vista House.  I went through there and that’s where it gets real steep.  Halfway to the top you suddenly come across a “debris field” of junk that has either blown down or slid down the hill.  The surprise was that I found almost nothing of value; a few interesting things though.  A picnic table, a license plate from the late 1980s, someone’s prescription for some interesting medications, and two pickup canopy covers.  Those last two had been there awhile and were not from the past week; not sure where those go.  I never saw a single hat or pair of sunglasses.  And, it’s totally calm until the last few feet, then you get blasted as you come up into the parking area.  Once again, a fun little adventure but I wouldn’t do it again.

59 Responses to Saturday’s Scavenger Hike: Hard Work and No Reward

  1. cgavic says:

    At 850 ft. in amall down~slope valley in sandy, we’ve been getting the same weather and temps as shorty’s corner (firwood webcam).
    Apparently, we have a 7-day arctic air pattern settling in. Wed or thurs, sandy’s lo 17/20.

  2. Jason Hougak says:

    2 steps forward 3 steps back with these “bleepity bleep” computer models… Ahhh!

  3. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    00z EURO full run
    Some colder air tries to dig west over us, but not quite. A huge reload moves into Yukon at day 9-10. The 500mb pattern is really a convoluted mess.

    • Model Rider says:

      That is some cold air moving into Yukon and Alaska at day 9-10. Hmmmmm, ,,,,

    • Jason Hougak says:

      It’s always 9-10 days out! Maybe we all stop looking into the crystal ball of the computer models and will get the goods! I like looking at satellite current imagery much more that those fortune tellers that don’t know what’s going on.

  4. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    00z GFS operational = crummy. Chilly, but dry and boring
    00z GFS Ensembles = Much better. Operational is quite an outlier.
    00z EURO in 18 minutes!

  5. Taylor says:

    I’m not so much as concerned about cold air and snow as I am about receiving much needed rain. As long as we continue this wet pattern that would be good. But, looks like that might not happen according to different forecasts. It’s just temporary.

  6. No Snow says:

    The curse of The No Snow continues! Better hide yo kids, hide yo wife.

  7. Jason Hougak says:

    Check it out. Winter Storm Warning in Hawaii and Florida. What’s this world coming too. I’m feeling like we are marooned!

  8. Jason Hougak says:

    Timberline 7 day pathetic
    Freezing level finally drops only very little precip! Booooo 😦

  9. Eastman(Parkrose/NE Portland) says:

    I live in the Parkrose Neighborhood (NE Portland)

    Im new to writing on this blog- definitely not new to reading it. I dont know too much about the models; how to read them etc.

    But I thought I would write in here,
    I have been waiting for a good snow fall here in portland- hoping and hoping along with everyone else!!

  10. Marcustheweathernut says:

    18z was an outlier!!!!:)

  11. BoringOregon says:

    Did any one see this lol??–

  12. Sapo says:

    Yikes…Bad 18z GFS, definitely not cold enough for snow and pushing away all cold air.

    • yetanotherguy says:

      Get out the forks people. The real snow (1″ at PDX) window closes in just 18 days. Hopefully it at least gets wet and cool for the next 8 to 10 weeks so we can build some snow pack.

    • Sapo says:

      Yeah, if we still are not looking likely Mid-Feb even with the ridge gone, then we are done with winter.

    • JERAT416 says:

      I’ve see 2-3 inches in March before on the west side (Beaverton, Aloha, Hillsboro, etc). However, that is usually in very active winters, not complete flops like this one.

  13. BoringOregon says:

    What happen to the rain????????

  14. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    12z EURO operational was not good at all. So, oh well we move on. Maybe the Ensembles will be better. Onto 00z…..

    00z GFS in 8 hours
    00z GEM in 8 hours 40 minutes
    00z EURO in 10 hours 35 minutes

  15. Jake-(Gresham) says:

    It’s going to snow all the way into parts of Florida and Louisiana….

  16. Jason Hougak says:

    Worked in west hills. East wind and high overcast, feeling like winter weather!!! Come on moist NW Flow and a blue northern!

  17. geo says:

    According to Mr. Parsons, Feb. will be mild.

  18. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    12z GFS Ensembles. Not nearly as good as 6z. Mean temp specifically is warmer. This is what I expected to see.

    After day 7 a lot of spread and uncertainty. It’ll be 3-4 days before things are smoothed over and nailed down more.

  19. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    12z GFS through HR 180 ridge axis too close to us, but supposedly after day 8-9 things look better. Day 10 looks real nice. I’m not buying it. We’ll see what the Ensembles show.

    • Sean (From Portland / Now living in Lebanon, IN) says:

      Rob – I think the pattern is going to shift the COLD back to the west a bit. Even I’m getting a little sick of the subzero weather now.. LOL

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      It might. At face value 12z is good, sure. I don’t like that the pattern doesn’t setup favorably until after day 8 really. Progression after resolution change looks funny to me. I want to see the 500mb pattern get its act together by day 5-6 and the goodies arriving day 7-8, not at day 9-10. Plus I just simply don’t believe the GFS operationals after day 7.

    • JohnD says:

      Thanks for keeping weather hope alive Rob. We
      have all been playing this game for a lot of
      weeks now. Watching, waiting. But except for
      the one week in Dec., we have been stuck with an
      unrelenting ridge, while–seemingly–everywhere
      else is getting the goods in record proportions!
      Now 8 days out. Now 10 days out…over and over. All the while time marches on. And there is not
      much time left in the “window”. There still is;
      but SOMETHING needs to be evolving fairly quickly
      or else we can be shutting the book on yet
      another blah season!

  20. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    6z GFS operational was quite good.

    Ensembles? To my surprise vast improvement. Mean temp down to -9c and holds at -7c through February 8th.

  21. W7ENK says:

    Oh darn, I was hoping you might find the glasses that blew off my face in February 2004. That night sucked!

  22. Jason Hougak says:

    Always up for a good adventure as long as you don’t find people almost dead. In 2004 we found a lady almost dead on a winter trip to Devils Peak Lookout. It will be a trip I will never forget!

    • Dave in SW PDX (235') says:

      Great job, Jason! I remember hearing this story on the news. You are a lifesaver – literally!

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      I remember when this was on the news! That’s incredible the 4 of you are/were heroes. Good thing you decided to take that trail. That would be a life altering experience.

    • Jason Hougak says:

      It was an act of God. We were debating going somewhere else but went. Sylvia wouldn’t have been found until the late spring hiking season.

  23. pdxgeologist says:

    I love LiDAR.

  24. I have a few hikes like that…did them to do them, but wouldn’t again.

  25. schmit44 says:

    1/27/2014 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:56 at LONG PRAIRIE(1093 ft) & FLYNN PRAIRIE(1543 ft) & QUAIL PRAIRIE LO(3183 ft)
    Low: 48 at FLYNN PRAIRIE(1543 ft) & GOODWIN PEAK(1800 ft)

    High:21 at MUTTON MOUNTAIN(4011 ft) & NPOWDR(3212 ft)
    Low: 8 at HEREFORD (3599 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 39 degrees
    RED BUTTE (49/10 ) (4460 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.25″ at HEBOWX Mt. Hebo(3160ft)

  26. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    Well, now it is on to 6z and 12z

    6z GFS in 3 hours
    12z GFS in 9 hours
    12z GEM in 9 1/2 hours
    12z EURO in 11 hours 17 minutes

  27. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    Ah, that was enjoyable to read. Sounds like a fun hike to be honest.

    00z GEM
    Pretty decent run, cold arrives after day 8.

    850mb temp loop
    -10c to -15c. COLD

  28. Greg Carstens says:

    Darn! No historic artifacts you could perhaps sell on Ebay Mark.

  29. Danny in Troutdale says:

    I HATE YOU NATE!!!! lol 😛

  30. Danny in Troutdale says:

    First?!?! could this be 2 in a month?

  31. MasterNate says:

    But what about the cold?

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