How do YOU rate Summer 2013?


We haven’t done a poll in a long time.  So here you go.  Let’s rate the summer so far.

Obviously we all have different criteria, including weather geeks who would like to see more thunderstorm action in the summer, so not exactly a scientific poll.

251 Responses to How do YOU rate Summer 2013?

  1. Decent summer, plenty of sun, couple nocturnal Tstorms up here, no complaints. Lets turn the page, bring on active fall, early snows by tganksgiving, ie real wx. Seeing the kid diving into the lake is getting old. New post?

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      I hope not. The 18z GFS took the heat away in a major way. Let’s hope that trend continues.

  2. BoringOregon says:

    Ahhhh, finally got some rain. Feels good to have our weather back !!

    • A short break from the dry. Sure does have that familiar feeling tho…. People getting out of their cars assuming the pose…hunched shoulders, looking down with a kind of squinting grimace on their faces. It’s the western Oregon osteo-crook neck-rain scrunch. 🙂

    • Lurkyloo says:

      The 2nd year in a row! I got rained on during my only camping trip this summer. We went up towards Joyce Lake outside of Estacada. I was definitely doing the osteo-crook-neck-rain-scrunch. In late August. ‘Maters and sunflowers are happy though.

  3. Jeff Raetz says:

    0.09″ total for today

    0.15″ for the month

    August average is 0.21″

  4. Hal in Aims says:

    severe tstrm warning Madras..

  5. Hal in Aims says:

    looks like possibly a little partial clearing after this little band goes through before the next batch arrives??

  6. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Love the CYA statements!

    850 AM PDT SUN AUG 25 2013


  7. paulbeugene says:

    Summer is over…for just the next few days…raining at decent clip here in Eugene…no thunder…plain rain.

    Euro and GFS still suggest return to summer in long range, after Labor Day. GFS has been advertising early September hot spell (i.e. temps 95-102F) for some time, Euro suggests a more normal late summer warm spell…still thinking we may add a few 90s to the total, perhaps get to 20 days for the year.

    All time record high for Sept in Eugene is 103F set in 1988 Sep 2. Of course that led to a very warm, mild winter (record warm spell in early February) without any freezing temps if I recall correctly 😉

    Starting to see some -12C 850mb temps in the far N arctic, getting to be that time of the year again.

    TWC looks to get a ratings boost in a couple weeks with hurricane season getting busy.

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      No Paul. Your memory is not correct. In early February 1989 we had a monster snowstorm and arctic blast. Salem had a foot of snow withe highs in the teens for a couple of days. And in early February we dropped down to -1. The last time Salem was below zero. The winter overall was near normal otherwise.

  8. Muxpux (Castle Rock 175') says:

    Kind of late for an update but we made it down the river ok!! Easily over 100 people turned out. Simply epic. This was the 4th annual float and had the weather been 90’s who knows how many would have turned out. One nice thing this time of year is even with lame weather the water temps are still up. Speaking of which, taking the boat out on the willamette tomorrow. I’ll be sure and bring an umbrella! Haha

  9. schmit44 says:

    8/24/2013 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:94 at Rye Valley(I-84(2230 ft) & CW2049 Imnaha(1978 ft)
    Low: 67 at BLALOK(277 ft) & ECHO(683 ft) & RUFUS(185 ft)

    High:56 at HEBOWX Mt. Hebo(3160 ft)
    Low: 34 at CRANE PRAIRIE (5500 ft ) & KIRK (4519 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 46 degrees
    MINAM LODGE-PORT (89/43 ) (3575 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.44″ at DW1652 Prinevill(2864ft)
    0.43″ at DW5076 Ruggs(2950ft)

  10. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Hmmmmmm…wonder what kinda wind storms this Fall/Winter will produce. Don’t watch this Karl! Hahaah!

    Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale

  11. BoringOregon says:

    Any good chance of, storms Tomorrow. Even heard the weather channel say we might get some thing ?

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Unsure about the metro area seeing anything, but perhaps southern Willamette and cascade foothills in the evening.

  12. runrain says:

    Any chance moisture from tropical storm Ivo works its way up in the Northwest eventually?

    • archangelmichael2 says:

      Usually from my experience Tropical storms like Ivo tend to shuffle weather patterns around for a week or so hence likely why we are suddenly having bouts of rain which I love!

      I bet we will have a good heatwave in September since warm falls are the new norm around here.

    • archangelmichael2 says:

      In other words Runrain Ivo is the monkey wrench thrown in the weather pattern! 🙂


      ….so…maybe not if it’s drifting to the south?

    • runrain says:

      I love monkey wrenches arch angel!

  13. well, today is the big day. Tap The Toutle. about 30-40 people floating the Toutle River with 2 kegs, and whatever else people bring. not the best weather for it, but its the NW, its what we do. wish us luck! haha.

  14. schmit44 says:

    8/23/2013 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:92 at Weatherby Rest A(2390 ft) & HEPP(311 ft) & NORTH FORK JOHN(1975 ft)
    Low: 74 at HEPP(311 ft)

    High:56 at Port Orford(0 ft)
    Low: 32 at DIMLKE (4726 ft ) & CRAZYMAN FLAT (6100 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 47 degrees
    Beatty (80/33 ) (4320 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.33″ at Grant County Reg(3697ft)

  15. pappoose in scappoose says:

    “The pattern is now about to change, with the development of a stronger, persistent trough off our coast (see map for Friday at 5 PM). Showers along the coast, thunderstorms east of the Cascade crest, and lots of clouds for the rest of us. It couldn’t last forever….”

  16. Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

    I hope the 12Z GFS operational is drunk or something. 26 degree 850mb temps in early September. No thanks.

    • Jesse-Stevenson says:

      I wouldn’t worry too much. WAY out in the long range.

      I’m just glad we are going into a cooler pattern in the short-mid term.

    • karlbonner1982 says:

      More early September heat on the 18z as well! Yippie!

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      The GFS is not backing off on this impending heat wave. I know it’s a ways out, but it’s starting to concern me. Make me feel better, Jesse.

    • Jesse-Stevenson says:

      It’s still way out in the long range. And the Euro hasn’t even shown it yet.

      Is that good? 😉

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      Yes. Thank you!

  17. Walter says:

    Wondering how much rain others measured overnight (8/22-23). I’m in SW Portland and was awakened last night by the rain–didn’t look at the clock, unfortunately. Had close to .20″ in the rain gauge this morning. But I see that the official measuring stations had only a trace or barely measurable amounts. Given the puddles on the patio, I think my rain gauge was correct…but wondering if others can corroborate. In any case, the rain was welcome and all the plants in the garden look quite a bit fresher this morning. Thanks.

  18. schmit44 says:

    8/22/2013 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:98 at DW9659 Richland(2379 ft) & Rye Valley(I-84(2230 ft)
    Low: 71 at BLALOK(277 ft)

    High:54 at Port Orford(0 ft)
    Low: 35 at CRAZYMAN FLAT (6100 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 44 degrees
    FOSTER FLAT (85/41 ) (5000 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    1.09″ at SUGARLOAF(4328ft)

  19. BoringOregon says:

    eeeeeeee, Fail for thunder storms tonight !

    • W7ENK says:

      They were never in our forecast.

      Last night’s blizzard was also a bust, as was yesterday’s 118 degree high at PDX.

  20. Roman~Snow-Zone-Monmouth, Elv. 223' says:

    Boom! There goes some lightning and thunder, nice and refreshing rain too!

  21. runrain says:

    Last couple frames show that cell nearing Estacada strengthening a bit. And that area down by Eugene looks menacing.

  22. Hal in Aims says:

    looks like another pfft…got in a couple of what would probably be classified as severe here the 11th and 12th in Missouri while on a long road trip..guess I’ll be content with that….

  23. BoringOregon says:

    Not looking so good :(.

  24. Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

    Well, we definitely won’t make the upper 80s today. Thank you clouds!!!

  25. WEATHERDAN says:

    One of the analog years this year is being compared to is 1968. The summer of 1968 was so totally different from this summer. Only 45 days over 80 all summer. Over 6 inches of rain in August with one day in August only reaching a high of 59. The summer was so bad that school was delayed by one week so the students could finish harvesting the crop. Fall was pretty typical that year. Wet and cool. But things started to get real interesting right after Thanksgiving. Snow fell to the depth of 2 inches on November 30th. Then about a week later we had additional minor snowfalls. Then for about a week we had very wet and somewhat mild weather. All over this changer about the 19th. Overnight temps dropped into the upper teens and stayed below freezing on the 20th under foggy skies. Then a major snowstorm hit just before Christmas piling up to a depth of 6 inches before melting a day later. Just after Christmas we had an arctic from drop down from the North. Temperatures dropped from 36 to 22 degrees in two hours. After a low of 6 degrees Salem only rose to 11 degrees. The coldest high temperature ever recorded down here. We had nearly a foot of snow with that storm. In early January we had a brief warm spell with 3 consecutive highs near 60 degrees. It would turn out to be the last time the temps rose above the low 40,s for over a month. The next two weeks saw highs from 32 to 42 degrees. Every night got down to at least 32 degrees. It either snowed or there was a mixture of rain and snow. Then about the 20th of January we were hit by another Arctic blast. We had a full week of lowering temps. Highs lowered from the mid 30,s to the mid 20,s. Lows dropped from the mid teens to the single digits. Then we had a monster snowstorm. Eugene had a maximum snow depth of 44 inches. Salem over 30 inches, and Portland almost 2 feet. Snow lasted on the ground until the 6th of February. After that Winter just seemed to fade away. The Spring of 1969 was early and warm. For us snow lovers it was probably the most enjoyable winter ever. Now with much more population in the valley and global warming we may never see another winter like that anytime soon. But who knows. And even if it isn’t quite as cold the winter patterns could still be similar. That said I am still a Summer person. I hope this warm weather lasts into October. After the Dodgers win the World Series then I will look forward to a cold and snowy Winter. Have a great weekend one and all. Let’s hope the Thunderstorms develop for a great light show. Peace

  26. BoringOregon says:

    Look like a severe thunder storm warning is up for 2 mils east of medford, and about 5 mils east of burns !!

  27. WEATHERDAN says:

    Lots of mid and high level clouds around the PM here in the central valley. Albany and south skies are partly sunny and in the low to mid 80,s. Here in Salem we are just starting to see some sun with a lot of smoke and haze and temps in the mid and upper 70,s. Another 60+ temp last night in Salem. Our 16th of the summer. As recently as the 1970,s we averaged 1 per year. Now it’s 11. So this year is above average again. My thoughts are that we we see some thunder activity this afternoon and again tonight. Nocturnal TRW activity is somewhat unusual west of the cascades, but not unheard of. What is unusual is the heat this summer. These hot summers are becoming the norm. If global warming doesn’t really exist we are sure doing a good local imitation of it. After today it looks like temps will cool down to the low 80,s over the next few days with maybe a warm up to the low to mid 80,s the middle of next week. But no big heatwaves in sight. Neither do I see any organized storms hitting us from the west. Summer isn’t over by a long shot and more heat is in the card for September. After that we will see what mother nature has in store for us. In the mean time a great day to all of you fellow bloggers, peace.

    • Did you live somewhere else the past few summers?

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      No I have lived in Salem all of my 59 years. I have seen a slow but gradual increase in temperatures. As an example in the 1950,s we averaged only around 60 days each summer over 80 degrees. But since 2000 we are averaging nearly 67 days over 80 each summer.

  28. BoringOregon says:

    The way these clouds are, idk we might not get any thing if we don’t get any clearing soon ?

  29. Jesse-Stevenson says:

    Loud rumbles of thunder out here in the past thirty minutes or so.

  30. cgavic says:

    Thunder now overhead w/sunbreaks

  31. paulbeugene says:

    Feels like Germany down in Eugene this AM…72.8F dwpt 62F. Looks like another wave/disturbance rotating around upper low toward NW OR this afternoon. Instability indices on mesoscale models not all that impressive but there is enough at mid levels to generate some convection (i.e. last night). Best chance will be south of Salem-Corvallis line this afternoon. Slight chance farther N although MAYBE something drifting off Cascades late tonight or early AM Friday over Sandy/Estacada. Nothing severe anticipated. What happened offshore of San Francisco a couple days ago was impressive…11000 strikes in San Francisco area (mostly offshore) on Aug 20.

  32. pappoose in scappoose says:

    GOLU time!

    848 AM PDT THU AUG 22 2013


  33. paulbeugene says:

    Thunderstorm just E of Eugene, saw good bolts including one hitting transformer with secondary “lightning”

  34. Sifton says:

    It was high wispy clouds in NE Vancou. for sure. & when Mark gets back from vacation some ppl are in trouble!!

  35. BoringOregon says:

    Any body know if the fox 12 team has a running team Hood to Coast goes by my road,, if there is hint hint my road has pigs on it !!!

  36. Paul D says:

    Is it REALLY going to go below 80 for a few days like the 7 day forecast shows?!? Somebody is teasing me…

    • Jesse-Stevenson says:

      If the 00Z GFS is correct we’ll have some highs WAY below 80 in the long range. 🙂

  37. BoringOregon says:

    So what’s the chance that we might get some, storm’s tomorrow night
    from the upper level storm coming from the south or are the winds going to blow it of to the east once they get to us ??

  38. WEATHERDAN says:

    At 3:00 PM Salem is 85 with mostly cloudy skies. Altocumulus Castellanus moving from se to nw are now covering more than half of the sky. Low level winds continue to blow of the Northeast. Humidity seems to be increasing. Perhaps the upper level low over Nevada is moving this way. If it stays at least partly cloudy the rest of the afternoon, it might still hit 90 degrees. Without a marine intrusion it will most likely stay above 60 degrees tonight.

  39. High Desert Mat says:

    So I think everyone should reply to this post and agree that if Rob comes back for fall and winter that he’ll be left alone and no one picks on him. Instead be behind him and have adult obs and conversations with him. I’ll start it off, Rob come back soon and I for one will not instigate or be negative towards u in any way. Cant wait for your long term forecasts about winter and to hear your valuable input on models and maps.

    • Give it a rest. Mark put him on moderation and probably won’t take him off it for a very long time.

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      Someone will pick on him.
      The trolls have too much fun with rattling his cage.

      I hereby state that I’ll leave him alone and not pick on him!

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      Atmospheric Wrath, Rob Wrath, The Gradient Keeper. One and the same was chased off this blog by trolls that I will not name. I don’t need to because we all know who they are. This is really a shame because he was one smart weather dude. If he comes back I hope he is left alone by the trolls. But we all know that ‘s not likely to happen. I will pledge to keep my comments weather related, and only ask that everybody else does the same. I will assume that we are on this blog because we have an interest in meteorology. This blog gives us a platform to agree or disagree with other bloggers opinions on this subject. Posters should should not have to be subject to insults or character assassination or outright threats. If you are old enough to participate in these online discussions you should be mature enough to behave. And yes there have been time when I have gotten frustrated at some on this blog and have lashed out. This I should not do. So let us all pledge to not be trolls, but responsible adults. So Rob if you do decide to give us one more chance I hope you will have a positive experience this time. Peace.

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      I certainly want him back. Him, Paul, and Mark are my favorites. No offence to the rest of you fine people.

    • runrain says:

      I want Rob back and would leave him alone, except for when I’m thanking him for his insight. I wouldn’t be the winter blog without him. Back or not, hmmmmm always runs through my mind when things get interesting!

    • Lurkyloo says:

      I miss Rob, too. I wish he would just let the trolls kiss his donkey.

      Is “ass” a bad word here? Just a’wonderin.

    • PaulO says:

      Rob deserves another opportunity and the trolls can go to ****

    • High Desert Mat says:

      Mike, Mark put him on moderation a long a$$ time ago. When u know what your talking about respond. I wont give it a rest and maybe u should lay off him. He knows an infinite amount more than u when it comes to weather. He’s very valuable when it comes to reading models and long term stuff. And I love his optimism just like many others on here.

    • Boomer In Vancouver says:

      I personally miss what Rob added to weather discussion, but there are trolls that will not leave people alone. It is unfortunate but true.

      If Rob comes back he needs to be able to be the better person and let it go. I personally never would pick on anyone here and will not start.

    • Rob - Southeast Portland says:

      I only lurk here once every few months. While I appreciate what is being said here(and I do), I also respectfully decline to come back. You just can’t keep allowing the same core group of troublemakers to roam about and to continue conducting themselves as they do and have for several years now. There would need to be changes made before that is even anything I would consider.

      Enjoy the active Fall and snowy, cold Winter ahead!


    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      The only “picking on” I’ve noticed is when someone can’t take being corrected and/or being wrong. Then someone gets seriously mad to the point where other members on here are being threatened. We don’t need anymore of that.

  40. Sifton says:

    What up with these high clouds & where is that east wind?? C’mon 90?!?

  41. alohabb says:

    Just out of curiosity, hiw many 90+ days have we had this summer and how has that compared to other years?

    • Jesse-Stevenson says:

      I believe 7 at PDX, which is below their long-term average of 11-12. Today should make 8.

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      As of yesterday Salem has 14 days over 90 so far. Eugene has 17 days over 90 so far. Salem looks like maybe low 90,s today, and maybe around 90. But if the high clouds get any thicker then we probably won’t hit 90 either day.

  42. Brian Schmit says:

    8/20/2013 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:99 at BULLY CREEK RESE(2500 ft)
    Low: 71 at BULLY CREEK RESE(2500 ft) & Ontario Municipa(2188 ft) & Rye Valley(I-84(2230 ft)

    High:57 at NERRS MET SITE A(10 ft)
    Low: 32 at DIMLKE (4726 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 56 degrees
    Sand Creek (US 9 (89/33 ) (4525 ft )

  43. WEATHERDAN says:

    Greetings to all on the weather blog. Salem has risen to 86 degrees as of 4:00 PM I thought it might hit 90 today, but I think we will likely top out around 88 . However the next two days probably will hit about 90. Then a slow cooling trend into the weekend. Still into the low 80,s into early next week. Yes I wish Rob would come back for the Fall and Winter months. Maybe if all of us were nice to him he might agree to return. He was very insightful. Oh by the way today was the 65th time this summer we have hit 80. The record is 92 set back in 1967. I doubt we will hit that record. But we should have at least 80 days over 80. That has only happened 3 time in my life. 1958,1967, and 1994. so that would really be something.In the meantime enjoy our beautiful summer weather,peace. I

    • We could break that 80 record. Never know……..

    • archangelmichael2 says:

      Funny thing is Weather Dan we haven’t really seen ANY pressure rises on the 500mb maps to justify these higher then normal 80F days which the NWS has under performed.

      (Are there actually people looking at the models or have they cut back staff without our consent?)

      Usually if the pressure charts remain flat we and Portland get socked in with clouds in all but the afternoon/evening hours usually resulting in beautiful sunsets when the clouds do come in for the night but the valley has been virtually cloud free the majority of summer which I find odd.

      Several times the NWS has TOTALLY under performed the temp heights constantly saying low to mid 80s for Salem and upper 70s for Portland but have been wrong on many occasions when it got above 90F. In other words every 90F day was totally uncalled for by the NWS.
      I can’t decide if the humidity is a good thing or a bad thing since while it makes sleeping miserable it is what’s keeping forest fire dangers down also or we would be highest on the danger level otherwise.

      I would normally be ecstatic for such warmth but looking at pressure charts this feels totally artificial somehow if you know what I mean and my sixth sense tells me something is wrong but I don’t know what.

      It’s like trying to figure out the missing pieces of that 200 piece jigsaw puzzle where you got the border pieces and middle section filled in but there is a weird part of the picture you cannot solve in all but a few remaining pieces.

      You can’t decide if it’ s something you haven’t figured out yet or you got ripped off and are missing a piece or two which means you will never be able to solve it until the pieces are there each time you look at the box to figure out the picture.

    • archangelmichael2 says:

      I would normally blame ocean SST’s for the NWS blowing it on these warm days but the graphs show some blue up and down the coast.

      When the ocean is cooler then usual you would think height pressures to the east of us would rise and result in nearly constant cloudy skies for us due to strong zonal flow.

  44. BoringOregon says:

    Was this system out of, Sf last night. Coming up are way for thursady ???

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