Fresh Snow In Cascades

There is a fresh (and first) coating of snow of snow over the Cascade Range Passes this morning.  Temps up there are hovering right around 32-33, so travel shouldn’t be a big issue today.  But still, nice to have a little peek at winter.  It appears the snow level, the lowest elevation snow is sticking to, is right around 3,000′.  Maybe slightly under.   I don’t see it going any lower than that today.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

41 Responses to Fresh Snow In Cascades

  1. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    Nice outflow winds at Bham this morning.

  2. JJ97222 says:

    Oregon winter number 52 is here. Wood stove is cranking 80 degrees in the family room, vitamin D tablets on hand, new pair of skis in the garage and a December vacation to Mexico booked. Oh and business trips to the southeast set up. The grey dark wet weather is here in Milwaukie.

    • W7ENK says:

      Indeed, it is. I have a feeling our protective dome is going to be extra strong this year… but the rest of the Portland area, look out! Ice will be the big story this winter, particularly East of I-205. There may be a snow event or two, but that pesky Southerly push will keep the rain/snow line right about Johnson Creek Blvd, except right along the Willamette River where the snow line will push up to just North of the Pearl District.

      Mayhaps I should draw a new map? Here’s my forecast map from a couple years ago, pretty much exactly as it played out, though with lesser amounts away from the city.

    • SnowedIn - North Plains says:

      Looks like half my house will recieve 3-6, and the other half will recieve 6-8… I should move next door.

    • W7ENK says:

      Resolution’s pretty good on that, huh? 😆

    • JJ97222 says:

      Yes you should put that map together W7ENK cause the DOME really happens, that way we can show other bloggers that Milwaukie is well defended from the cold higher level activity. My kids hate the Dome.

    • W7ENK says:

      I’ve lived under the dome my whole life. It even followed me to Klamath Falls the first year (of three) I lived down there! ‘Tis the bane of my wintertime weather-loving existence. I loathe this cursed dome!


    • W7ENK says:

      I have empirical evidence via radar that the center of the dome is very close to where I grew up, only a handful of blocks away, actually!

      Radar image of Sleet/ZR event, January 11, 2011.

      That hole in the radar return sat there almost the whole time! Literally, the center is a but stone’s throw away from where I grew up, and very near where I live now.

  3. Kyle says:

    Weather question for you folks! What airflow does it take to have 65+ weather in November without the air *cheating* via sub tropic airmass which often leads to cloudy weather?

    Would a late four corners high put us up there in Early November?

  4. Kyle says:

    BTW: I almost forgot to mention Andrew who live sup near Silver Falls Park elevation 1500 hardly got any rain either.

  5. Kyle says:

    Hi. While today……..I mean yesterday was dudesville X3 We have been getting light rain since around midnight and it’s in the upper 30s here.
    The air outside has a LOT sharper chill this time then yesterday. There is a bite in the air.

    The so called thunderstorms/cold air funnels outbreak yesterday never even came close around here and I ma not the least bit surprised anymore.
    We were partly sunny all day long and semi-tropical. 🙂

    Only San Diego would be nicer but we are a grade B weather for this time of the year.

    As a matter of fact from observation whenever there is unstable air masses we are always under a small but stationary high pressure with often the sun peeking thru. The only times we get decent rainfall is under SW air flow which I think has to do with mountain orographic lift.

    I’ll never forget March when the storm was suppose to bring 3 inches of snow to the valley but instead the coast got half a foot or more.

  6. bgb41 says:

    10/21/2012 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:60 at Rye Valley(I-84(2230 ft) & ILLINOIS VALLEY(1389 ft) & ILLINOIS VALLEY(1389 ft) & DW0069 Ferndale(840 ft)
    Low: 46 at Florence Municip(52 ft) & North Bend Munic(16 ft) & Wyeth(97 ft)

    High:28 at CW7477 Lostine(7002 ft)
    Low: 10 at FOSTER FLAT (5000 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 42 degrees
    SILVER CREEK (64/22 ) (5720 ft )
    Lakeview, Lake C (54/12) (4734 ft)

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    1.07″ at DUNES(120ft)
    0.93″ at LOG CREEK(2800ft)
    0.93″ at CHARLOTTE RIDGE(1220ft)
    0.85″ at CW6568 Charlesto(38ft)
    0.82″ at Florence Municip(52ft)

  7. Anybody been following the story out of the San Francisco Bay area of the meteorite falling? Seems a chunk of it was found!

    • Kyle says:

      Good article. Thanks! Sadly serious weather/astronomy discussions are scarce around these neck of the woods unless most of the country is effected.

  8. Ian says:

    The Olympic Mts received a dusting of snow down to 2,000′ near Port Angeles overnight. It appears to have pretty much melted off by now, below about 3,500′. Also, we had our first frost this morning in Sequim, but still not cold enough to kill off the tomatoes.

  9. David B. says:

    A trace of snow fell this morning at Breitenbush Hot Springs (elevation 2200). It all melted in an hour, but the ridges from about 3,000 feet up were plastered when the clouds parted. There still was a fair amount of slush on the road from Detroit to Estacada up on the divide between the Clackamas and Breitenbush rivers (elevation 3600) this afternoon at around 2:30 PM.

    Maybe I’ll link to a few pics tomorrow. Right now I’m preoccupied with unpacking after the long drive to Seattle.

  10. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    IR satellite shows a larger pool of showers off the coast. Also, notice the jet streak down the west side of the trough.

  11. W7ENK says:

    Maybe I should forego the woodcutting trip to the back side of Mt. Hood today? Neither I nor my vehicle are prepared for winter weather.

    Missed out on all the thunder action yesterday. Another, better shot at it today? I’ll keep my eyes and ears peeled, camera charged!

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro, OR) says:

      Yes I would say chances are slightly enhanced.. especially if we achieve more sunbreaks through the day. 😛

      And even SPC is including the Willamette Valley today!

    • W7ENK says:

      Interesting, considering I’ve had more sun than not today, but I haven’t seen a drop of rain down this way all day… yet. Lots of puffy clouds floating by out there, but the sky looks drier than yesterday, if that makes any sense…

    • W7ENK says:

      Welp, here it is two hours later, and still no rain here in Milwaukie. Cloud deck has gone solid and flat, temperature peaked out at 53 degrees an hour ago. No storms here today.

      Up North is another story. Nice little meso-feature out to the West of Shelton earlier, almost looked like a weak little hook? Lots of reports of small hail in the Puget Sound region today. I guess we missed out on all the fun. 😦

    • *BoringOregon* says:

      Yea, I saw and heard it from my house around 6:pm or so yesterday. Must of been thunder snow up on mt hood?

  12. paulbeugene says:

    Cool to see snow on pass cams but this is not what I would call an exceptionally early snowfall on the passes. Earliest accumulating snow at Government Camp is 9/23/1984 (records date back to 1890s between old Summit Guard Station and current Govt Camp observations).

    Will watch out for waterspouts.

    Looks like cool weather for next week then transition to either mild wet, possibly stormy weather towards Halloween….looks like westerlies may cut in under the ridge over AK/G of AK.

    CFS weeklies show quite wet first three weeks of November with mild temps first two weeks followed by cooling week before Thanksgiving. My gut feeling is that ski areas in Oregon will start opening no earlier than Thanksgiving week, as we still have a mild wet period to get through before snowpack starts to build.

    Given that this is a non el Nino year, for all practical purposes, I am liking the weather pattern we have had lately. Odds seem higher for cold weather in the first half of the “snow season” here.

    For a detailed outlook on the upcoming winter check this out (click on preliminary 2012-13 winter ideas)…I have no connection/interest in this website.

  13. Mat the Salmon Killer says:

    I saw the rpm model u put up the other day Mark. What are chances of a little snow here in Redmond tonight/overnight? Or Rob perhaps. Thanks, just excited over the first chance of the season for the white stuff.

  14. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Hahaah! “There is a little better chance of more organized cells and cold-core funnel clouds.”

    National Weather Service Portland or
    857 am PDT sun Oct 21 2012

    Today will be cool and showery with a few more
    claps of thunder due to slightly better instability. 12z NAM bufr
    soundings for the Willamette Valley show better low-level directional shear than was evident Friday…so there is a little better chance of more organized cells and cold-core funnel clouds. It is highly unlikely any of these cold-core funnels would touch the ground as a tornado…but we will be putting out a Special Weather Statement shortly to discuss them.

  15. pappoose in scappoose says:

    I really like to peek at Winter. Let’s drive up the road a bit and see what Timberline Lodge looks like!

  16. JERAT416 says:

    If the ski resorts opened by Halloween, would that be close to a record? I mean if this lasted and didn’t melt and more fell all winter and spring?

    • JERAT416 says:

      Oh, this is “gloriousnumber1”. I’m using my wordpress account here.

    • Dave in SW PDX (235') says:

      Probably close to a record, yes. I do remember snowboarding @ Meadows on Halloween during the mid-1990’s; can’t remember the exact year, though. We had fresh tracks in the morning, then played 9 holes of golf in the afternoon!

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      The earliest Meadows has opened is the last week of October and I think it was 1994 or 1992. As the saying goes “October snow comes and goes, but November snow stays and grows”. Obviously a generality, but it is usually right. Since the average 850mb temp right now is +6 to +7, it’s hard to get snow consistently down do 5,000-6,000′. By the 2nd week of November it averages +2 to +3, that’s when you have a better chance of it hanging around consistently at 5,000′.

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