Weather Fit Only For Ducks Today

The best chance for widespread sticking snow this time around has passed at the lowest elevations this morning with warming daytime temps.  So far, it appears we didn’t officially have measurable sticking snow at the Portland NWS Forecast Office and most lower elevations had a dusting at best.  The gusty southerly wind isn’t helping; it keeps the air stirred up so a heavy snow shower doesn’t have a chance to cool the area below it down close to freezing. 

The snow level is up around 1,000 to 1,500′ right now.  It’ll generally stay there through this evening.

We could still see some fun this afternoon (next paragraph) then things wind down AFTER sunset.  Models are really drying us out after that time. 
REST OF TODAY: 
Heavy showers & sun breaks, possible hail or thunder, could be a brief dusting ANYWHERE for a few minutes if you get a heavy shower, but most of us just see rain/snow mixed.  High near 43.
THIS EVENING THROUGH MIDNIGHT: 
Showers die down or it may even totally dry out. 
OVERNIGHT: 
A sprinkle or flurry, likely no new snow in the metro area for the morning commute, and just light dustings in Coast Range and hills.  Low near 32.

THURSDAY: 
Partly cloudy, a shower or two, still cool…45

For those of you up in the hills, still many more inches to go before we dry out overnight and tomorrow morning.  Maybe 2-4″ additional up near and above 1,500′.

I have to say, I hate this weather…it’s not like a nice frozen snow event, but it’s the coldest rain/wet snow you can get and you can’t really enjoy being outdoors.  Could it just go one way or another?  A true Oregon duck doesn’t seem to mind this stuff, here’s a nice pic of Chit-Chat, or it might be Quacker.  I can’t tell, both of the ladies look the same. 

Looking farther ahead, we get more typical early March temps Saturday-Sunday and maybe Monday, but then another chilly airmass with snow in the hills later next Monday-Wednesday.  Beyond that is up in the air.   GFS keeps us cool, ECMWF is notably warmer about 8 days from now.  Interesting (or depressing) to note the GFS chart for Minneapolis (2nd chart)  is warmer than Portland (1st chart) after Monday.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

56 Responses to Weather Fit Only For Ducks Today

  1. Wendy-Silverlake, Wa says:

    Snow started sticking for the first time since about 2:00 today. Everything is white again. Temp down to 33.3.

  2. pappoose in scappoose says:

    LOOK!
    A Stray Albino Donkey is roaming about!

  3. john says:

    temperature dropping fast here dropped 3 degrees in about an hour

  4. Kyle says:

    What happens with the snow-budget if it’s not used up very much or at all?

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      Big party at Sam Adams’ house!

    • Kyle says:

      No seriously. Where does the budget go to? Either real answers or not at all. Thanks. :p

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      I doubt any of us are privy to that very specific information.

    • Brandan(Damascus) 675ft. says:

      I was curious myself so I did a little searching (sorry for the lengthy copy and paste).

      “It doesn’t save a lot because our personnel costs are more or less the same,” said Peter Murphy, spokesman for ODOT. “You don’t know when the weather might change; you can’t then go out there on the market and try to bring on qualified people.”

      Every November, ODOT brings on additional seasonal staff to be prepared for snow removal, Murphy said. Although the agency has seen some savings this year in terms of fuel to run equipment, gravel and de-icing chemicals, Murphy said those expenses are minor next to payroll costs.

      Winter snow removal and road maintenance come out of the same budget, Murphy said, meaning any savings realized during a mild winter are put toward more expansive maintenance the following summer.

      Source: http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20120113/NEWS0107/201130417/

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      I sit corrected

  5. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Hope I’m in the right spot! Really like it when model soundings support more snow than rain!

    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
    220 PM PST WED FEB 29 2012

    NOT MUCH ACROSS INTERIOR…BUT SPOTTY HALF TO 1 INCH OVER HIGHEST HILLS. WITH HEAVIER SHOWERS…COULD SEE SNOW DOWN TO VALLEY FLOOR
    BRIEFLY BUT LITTLE IF ANY ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED .BEST THREAT MAY BE LATER TONIGHT AS COLDEST AIR MOVES OVER REGION. MODEL SOUNDINGS
    SUPPORT SNOW MORE SO THAN RAIN…BUT WITH SHOWERY NATURE AND ONSHORE FLOW WILL MAINTAIN MIX FOR LOWEST ELEVATIONS…KEEPING ANY
    ACCUMULATIONS AT 500 FT AND HIGHER OVERNIGHT.

  6. Tyler Mode says:

    I agree. If its going to snow great, have it be 25 and snow. If its going to rain, fine have it be 50 and raining. This 36 and rain and snow is miserable!

    • stormblown says:

      I happen to like 34 and snow the best. If you like snow you might also like to watch it fall? Snowflakes are most dynamic just above freezing.

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      Haven’t observed snowflakes falling, at any temp, that I didn’t think were dynamic enough to watch fall!

  7. BEn T. says:

    South wind we don’t like you around these parts. Go North, you windy little fella.

  8. Silverton500 says:

    Any chance of 12-14 inches of snow sitting at 1500′ ready to flood the valley again with a quick warm rain storm?

  9. Partial to Ducks, are ya. Easier to keep than Beavers I suppose.

  10. Kyle says:

    THE REason why we are getting winter in spring and spring in winter is because some Wiccan has placed a curse on us that’s messing up the seasons to make it depressing. :p

    And when I get my hands on him or her………………

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      That’s exactly why Kyle.

    • Kyle says:

      All I know is the seasons are all messed up and it’s NOT due to natural variance.

      Go bury your head in the sand and tell me how it tastes.

    • Kyle says:

      I take what I said back.

      I did read a thread over at Western once that the sun went very strong in the last summer and, fall so that might have something to do with it due to solar wind which creates friction which friction creates heat and that’s what high pressure is.

      High pressure is simply a heat spot (which is very active molecules) and that’s why clouds go AROUND HP unless storms are powerful enough in a repeated pattern to break it down or shift it elsewhere.

      I guess we will see next winter if the sun stays in low power mode and we have another warm winter either ridgy or pineapple express which .

      If it’s going to be warm I believe we are going to get a slammed with pineapple express though if we are lucky even in the worst case scenario we will get a brief shot of Artic air.

      It’s unlikely we will have three ridgy winters in a row.

    • Kyle says:

      Also
      The solar winds might have been fueling the stagnant High Pressure zone over the Midwest last summer and Fall then once the solar activity died down there was a lag effect.

      Perhaps this April many spots in the USA will see weird snow storms that are unheard of but you will have to hunt at places like Iceagenow or other independent journalists since the Media doesn’t talk about cold spells unless they can spin it in a way to match Global Warming.

    • Dave in SW PDX (235') says:

      That tinfoil hat looks good on you, Kyle.

    • Karl Bonner says:

      Ummm….Wiccans aren’t supposed to place curses, Kyle. At least not according to their moral commandment.

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      Yeah, but what happens if you read his post backwards…didn’t think about that did you???

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      Hahaah! Thanks for the laugh! Not sure what’s the best laugh. A Wiccan curse or testing the taste of the sand!

  11. WEATHERDAN says:

    Rejoice sun lovers! This weekend is looking even better today. Saturday looks dry but mostly cloudy and 52-57 degrees. Sunday looks partly to mostly sunny and 57-62 degrees. More crummy weather next week but hey it;s March and that;s the way it is.

  12. Christiana in Forest Grove says:

    What a cute duck. Saw some snow in the air and now it is just wind and rain. Spring is coming right
    ……

  13. W7ENK says:

    This just in from a friend of mine in Central Ohio:

    Just checked the temp here. 66 and sun, light wind. A glass white wine and I would be all set. 🙂

    My resopnse:

    God, I am so jealous! Stop rubbing it in and send some of that out West, would ya?? You can keep the wine though, we’ve got our own…

  14. Wendy-Silverlake, Wa says:

    It’s quite the winter wonderland up here today. At least this direction, there is definitely snow sticking at less than 1000 ft.

    • yeah, i can look out to the hills on the other side of I-5 (towards headquarters area) and the hills are painted white starting what looks to be 300′ or so.i know im on the cusp. it keeps spitting snow, but just enough rain mixed in at times to not stick.

  15. gidrons says:

    I have to say, I like this weather. I get a nice blanket of snow but after driving down a country road a few miles, the roads are bare and I have a nice easy commute.

  16. W7ENK says:

    I’m willing to be the ducks don’t really enjoy this, either…

    Minneapolis warmer that Portland next week?!?
    Well then, aren’t THEY special! >_<

  17. Guess i zoomed too much 🙂 LOL

  18. Karl Bonner says:

    Well I said I was looking forward to a yo-yo spring, and if you count late February this year, we’re off to a pretty good start! Warm this weekend then cold again next week, maybe another warmup beyond that?

  19. Thanks for the update Mark. I posted pics & eventually a video from this morning….

  20. Richtpt says:

    I had an inch on the road at my house in the Bethany area, 360ft according to Google Earth.

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