No Radiation Threat

I’ve had a few emails the last few days wondering why we aren’t talking about the “radiation threat”. 

Because there isn’t any such threat. The nice picture of today’s rainbow from Katherine Budiao should help too.

This is akin to asking why I’m not talking about the snow threat in April…because the risk of that happening is so small why talk about it and feed into anxiety?  I’m amazed that scientists and government experts (and the President) can tell us there is no threat and still the conspiracy rumors still circulate.  Of course I did watch almost every episode of X-Files, so I suppose I can understand it a bit.

Take the meltdown at Chernobyl in 1986.  Eventually the radiation was detectable around a good chunk of the northern hemisphere, but harmful radiation only was a problem a few hundred miles away.  Just so we’re all clear on this…Japan is something like 5,000 miles away! 

So let’s talk weather.  Finally a nice slowdown in the showers this afternoon and evening.  There is quite a storm sitting offshore right now, and we should get some light rain out of it tomorrow.  But the low pressure center associated with it will never come inland over us.  Over the next 5 days we’ll see a bit of a split jet with energy digging south (well offshore) and then down into California.  This means a big slowdown in the weather.  Often we get some leftover showers from the south in this pattern, thus the MAINLY DRY on our 7 Day Forecast.  I don’t see temperatures shooting through the roof, but it won’t be nearly as cool as the last couple of days.  And most important…much brighter skies Saturday through early next week.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

92 Responses to No Radiation Threat

  1. Had a pretty good hail shower earlier this evening in da Beav close to 630. Hoping tomorrow brings some excitement…

  2. pappoose in scappoose says:

    It could be dry, or it could be very wet…Hahaah!

    http://rodhillforecast.com/weather/7-day-forecast-video.html

  3. Tyler Mode in Battle Ground says:

    My high today was 49 (at 6:13 AM). My daytime high was just 44.

    This is the 3rd day this month where my high has been before 7 AM.

    2nd: 49.3, 2:17 AM
    16th: 43.3, 12:44AM

    I’m so done with this weather.

  4. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Here’s a no-brainer, but I guess you can’t repeat it too many times.

    http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2011/03/latest-on-japanese-radiation.html

  5. MamaReen says:

    Here! (raises hand)

  6. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Recent SPC Mesoscale Analysis shows instability building pretty good west of the Coast Range. Lapse rates are quite steep on the order of 7.5 – 8C/km. I like our chances for plenty of hail showers/scattered t-storms tomorrow.

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Very cold 500mb temps -32c to -33c too.

    • TAGinGresham says:

      I would go for that! What time of day do you think we could have some excitement?

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      I’m shaking in my own boots, enough of the suspense Mother Nature, let’s bring it on!

      With the amount of shear available in our atmosphere on the 13th, many had actually realistic probabilities of seeing funnel clouds and/or a tornado. This only being in the middle of March. Wait ’till Summer, things should be exciting.

    • Ben Randall says:

      From coast to the valley

  7. Ben Randall says:

    If your a NWS Weather spotter you can sign up – https://inws.wrh.noaa.gov/

  8. MasterNate says:

    Just wanted to throw this out again. Really neat link for current weather conditions anywhere in the US including Alaska and Hawaii. Save it on your favorites in your weather folder and Geek out!

    http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/zoa/mwmap3.php?map=usa

  9. EA_TTD says:

    Looks like someone is missing today….

  10. Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

    These days its all about worries and hype and catastrophes that keep the news going. Media should take a deep breath and people should calm down. Japan is not like 10 miles away, jeeez!

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      and no one should buy into that 2012 crap. That is just whenever the Mayan calendar discontinued, NOT when they predicted freak incidents to end humanity…

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      And we are now 1 year + 9 months + 3 days away from that date, don’t you think there should at least be signs of this by now? Much more serious events happened centuries ago.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Don’t ask why I got into discussing this, but I just thought I’d share my two cents with everyone. lol

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      It’s clear we need to batten down the hatches…the end is near. It might be late but the writing is on the wall. Hahaah!

    • Mike near Clackamas Town Center says:

      I seen a article about 2012 and it refers to a meteor nasa has been tracking for quite some time….Don’t get too excited because if there is a meteor coming it’ll just be another bullet burn just like the rest the last couple of decades. The last notable major impact was in Russia many decades ago. Although these things can and will happen in the future just like the one that exploded over the blue mountains on the east side a couple of years ago. I was living in Yakima at the time and witnessed the blue streak pass from the NW horizon to the NE horizon. When you witness things like that it’s a life changing event that gives your life a whole new meaning and that life is too short to squander away.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      🙂

      Okay now try comparing 10,000 fatalities to 6,800,000,000 of our total population, even if something cataclismic goes on in a little over one year, that might not even do the trick to whipe us all out. Do the math, many of us will still roam Earth no matter what.

    • Mike near Clackamas Town Center says:

      If I remember right the Feb 21 2008 meteor wasn’t detected at all before it entered earth’s atmosphere. So you never know when the next one is coming.

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/02/080221-oregon-meteor.html

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      And the fact that many are already preparing for such crisis, that alone would no doubt lessen rate of fatalities for these events. So at least a billion or two might still make it out of it either way.

      And about population….. Heres an interesting fact….. in just under 50 years Earth has more than doubled its population from around 3,000,000,000 to almost 7,000,000,000. Rapid uprise in human population will make it impossible for us all to dissapear unlike the dinosaurs, when I don’t think there quite enough of them to weather the meteorite that caused the extinction. And besides, every one of our continents were joined into one piece of land during the old ages. With seperation of race by country, we have increased chances of thriving on our own.

  11. Ben Randall says:

    Just got this from Tillamook County Emergency Management

    Boil Water Notice City of Bay City / Kilchis Regional Water System
    Boil Water Notice
    City of Bay City / Kilchis Regional Water System

    Fecal coliforms and E. coli are present in the Kilchis Regional Water System’s water. BOIL YOUR WATER BEFORE USING. Fecal coliform and E. coli bacteria were found in the water supply on March 17th. The presence of fecal coliforms and E. coli bacteria indicates the water may be contaminated with human or animal wastes. Microbes in these wastes can cause diarrhea, cramps, nausea, headaches, or other symptoms. They may pose a special health risk for infants, young children, and people with severely compromised immune systems. DO NOT DRINK THE WATER WITHOUT BOILING IT FIRST. Bring all water to a boil, let it boil for one minute, and let it cool before using, or use bottled water. Boiled or bottled water should be used for drinking, making ice, brushing teeth, washing dishes, and food preparation until further notice. The water system is being treated and you will be informed when you no longer need to boil your water. They anticipate resolving the problem within seventy-two hours. For more information, please contact Bay City Public Works Superintendent at 503-457-7050.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Interesting… Are there any other counties that this concerns? When I move back north I certaintly would not want to deal with this type of thing.

    • Ben Randall says:

      Not sure ..Will let you know if I find out

  12. Ben Randall says:

    Had some small hail coming down

  13. Longview - 400 ft says:

    Currently 44.2
    This is also the high for the day as well.
    Are we still in January, I thought we were all the way into the middle of March?
    Still burning a lot of wood to keep warm.

  14. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Currently 43.0 with light winds. Yet another chilly, damp March day which seems to becoming all too familiar anymore, but not complaining. No t-storms today due to that. Might be a better chance tomorrow.

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
      NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
      205 PM PDT FRI MAR 18 2011

      TSTORM THREAT EARLIER LOOKED GOOD FOR INTERIOR… BUT WITH SLOW FRONT HAVE PULLED THAT THREAT BACK TO ONLY THE COAST RANGE AND WESTWARD FOR THIS
      EVENING. OVERALL CHANGES WILL BE SLOW TONIGHT AND SAT. MORE ENERGY ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE PARENT OFFSHORE LOW WILL HEAD FOR N CALIF ON SAT. THIS TREND WILL SAP THE PARENT LOW OF ENERGY…AND ALL IT TO GRADUALLY WEAKEN AND DRIFT S. END RESULT IS THAT WILL KEEP SHOWERS AROUND REGION ON SAT…WITH BEST THREAT IN AFTERNOON. WITH MORE SUN BREAKS AND UNSTABLE AIR MASS…WILL KEEP CHANCE OR ISOLATED TSTORMS IN FORECAST FOR SAT AFTERNOON/EVENING.

  15. Ben Randall says:

  16. MasterNate says:

    This is a very cool link. Just move your curser on a city (colored dot) and current temp and conditions pop right up. Includes AK also.

    http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/zoa/mwmap3.php?map=usa

  17. PDX Weather Nut says:

    Rain, rain, lots of cold rain this morning. Had a brief break for a half hour or so.

  18. Ryann (East Vancouver) says:

    Tornado Warning around San Mateo, CA

  19. Jesse-Orchards says:

    Thanks for hopefully putting the topic to rest once and for all, Mark. (edited)

  20. pappoose in scappoose says:

    Potential for some Stay Albino Donkeys today:

    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
    844 AM PDT FRI MAR 18 2011
    MORE UNSTABLE AIR BEHIND THE FRONT NOW PUSHING UP
    TO THE COAST…WHERE STARTING TO SEE LIGHTNING STRIKES JUST OFFSHORE AND TO S TOWARDS NORTH BEND. THIS UNSTABLE AIR WILL SPREAD N AND E TO ENVELOP THE FORECAST AREA THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON. MODELS HAVE CAPES OF 200 TO 300 J/KG DURING THE AFTERNOON OVER WESTERN OREGON. THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GENERATE A FEW THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. FREEZING LEVEL NOT ALL THAT HIGH…MOSTLY AROUND 3000 FEET. SO WILL GOOD THREAT OF SMALL HAIL WITH THE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING.

  21. Steve in Beavercreek 1,100' says:

    It really ticked me off yesterday when Rod Hill on channel 8 did a leading story on the prevailing winds from Japan. Anybody that does not know a lot about the situation would assume that the radiation was heading right for us and might harm us. They followed up with a story saying that the radiation would not be concentrated enough to harm us. So why does he tell us it is heading right for the Pacific NW? I believe that want to scare people just to get higher ratings.

  22. Thank you for being one of the few voices of reason in the media concerning this Mark. Been saying it for days but nobody listens to me.

  23. Sifton says:

    I KNEW you were going to take that 60 out of the forecast Mark,*sigh……….

  24. Ben Randall says:

    Tstorms today ? http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/2011031800/images_d2/mcape.24.0000.gif

    Can some tell me there thoughts (rob someone that knows tstorms better)

  25. bgb41 says:

    3/17/2011 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    Warmest:
    High:58 at Heppner Jct.( 312 ft) & CW3932 Central P(1290 ft) & Echo(680 ft)
    Low:42 at DW1265 Newport(164 ft) & CW0356 Seaside(13 ft)

    Coldest:
    High:20 at Mount Hood Meado(6601 ft)
    Low: 1 at CRANE PRAIRIE (5500 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 34 degrees
    CROW FLAT (39/5 ) (5130 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.85″ at RED MOUND(1753ft)
    0.70″ at QUAIL PRAIRIE LO(3183ft)
    0.67″ at North Bend Munic(16ft)

  26. Ben Randall says:

    I just redesigned my blog and TURNED OFF comment moderation ..will see how this goes

    http://www.benrandallweather.com/

  27. …let me see if i can grasp this….mostly kinda dry, and it’s spring break…how is that possible?… 🙂

    • Boydo3 500' North Albany says:

      But still below average temps, so spring break is still gonna be a typical “wish it would warm up and be nice” type of week.. hrumph..

    • Karl Bonner says:

      Umm…how are highs in the 57-60 degree range “below average”? Actually they’re a degree or two above average. And I *think* those forecast temps are assuming we get at least partial cloud cover from California. Mark hasn’t answered my question comment yet but I bet a mostly sunny day would at least get into the low 60s, provided there were no modified cool airmasses, maritime or continental, that managed to sneak in. And after all these days in the upper 40s/low 50s (and mid 40s for some of us), low 60s would feel really warm if winds were fairly calm and dewpoints not excessively low.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Temps look below average overall this coming week, Karl. Do you look at 850mb temperatures when making these calls? They are progged to be between +1 and -5c the next several days. It’s going to be chilly (for this time of year), even with clear skies.

      Here is CPC’s 6-10 outlook from yesterday as well. High confindence for below normal temps in the PNW: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/610day/610day.01.gif

      Don’t let warmcasting burn you again, man.

    • umpire says:

      BL, you’ve gone and jinxed us! Now it’ll be in the 40s, cloudy, and rain off and on!

      Actually looking forward to the nice day on Sunday – should be able to plant the coldweather items in the garden. The peas love this weather!

      Oh, and go Zags!

  28. pgiorgio says:

    maybe you should reply to all emails too Mark

  29. Yevpolo1990 says:

    got it

  30. Karl Bonner says:

    Now that we’re on the topic, I can understand why temperatures wouldn’t get hot if there are fragments of storms sneaking up from California from time to time. But suppose the storms end up on the southerly edge of what forecasts are suggesting, with the center of the lows coming onshore somewhere between the Bay and Point Conception instead of the northern third of the state. If the clouds stayed away completely, could we warm up more (as in mid to upper 60s)?

    I seem to recall that the early March heat wave of 2001 occurred when the storm track was aimed at central California.

  31. Jethro says:

    Thanks for the reassurance Mark.

    Five-thousand-two-hundred-and-eightieth!

  32. Nick Fouts says:

    It’s kind of funny, if there were a dangerous radiation threat, you guys would notify us! You haven’t, so there isn’t a threat. For some reason, people don’t believe it.

  33. Karl Bonner says:

    Second!

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