The First Live Local Wedding Center

I never thought the FOX12 Weather Center would turn into such a hot spot, a romantic getaway, a place where co-workers come in and scream about rings.   But apparently women (and men) are attracted to us weather types.  Within the last 6 months I’ve been told “I’m getting married” by 3 of my 5 co-workers.  Andy and I are still married (to our wives) and that’s not changing.  But yes, lots of disappointment by singles all over the metro area as you hear that Sophie, Brian, and Stephanie are all getting married within the next 6-8 months.  In fact two are getting hitched up the same day!  Not sure how that happened or what’s in the water around here.  I’m no matchmaker named Yenta for sure.  I can’t say enough good words about the three of them too.  They are wonderful coworkers and great people; they’ll do just fine in the future.  Congratulations!

Now, as for weather…there’s hardly anything to talk about.  A nice inversion the next few days.  Enough east wind to clear out the fog for most of the Metro area Wednesday-Friday, but otherwise it appears the mild and mainly dry January weather is going to continue into early February.  Maps are real boring through at least the next 7 days…

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

70 Responses to The First Live Local Wedding Center

  1. Josh in Puyallup says:

    I’m beginning to wonder if the East Coast will see any snow this year……

  2. Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

    00z looks a little wetter overall, but still nothing to be excited about.

  3. Yes it can snow in February and March, but can anyone tell me of an instance where we got a significant snow event that was late but also the first of the season? Seems like snowy late winters almost always follow a cool wet fall and snowy early winter.

  4. O.C.Paul says:

    Batton down the hatches. Crown Point has westerlies at 5 with gusts to 7. Who’s going up to observe?

  5. Andrea OReilly says:

    Wow! Truly amazing! Congrats to my favorite…Ms. Stephanie! I knew about Brian but Sophie too?? Love must be in the air…maybe it was the Yoga teachers magic…hehehehehe hint-hint

  6. Garron near washington square says:

    That’s great! Love is in the air at KPTV. Wonder if they can do their ceremonies on the air? Congrats to all.

  7. Sandi (Wilsonville) says:

    For the record, I know it can snow in Feb & Mar around here. 😉

    But right now Snowdrops are blooming in my yard, I swatted my first mosquito of 2011 yesterday, We wore shorts on our 2-mile walk this morning, and spiders and ants are starting to make their appearance *in* my house (!!). And it sounds like love is in the air at KPTV.

    Best wishes for the newly engaged. Happy wedding planning!

  8. Ken says:

    If its not gonna snow I still take this weather anyday over 38 and rain.

  9. Mike near Clackamas Town Center says:

    Here are my thoughts:
    We might very well see a major pattern shift some time in February but I’m not going to believe the computer models until it’s within the 5-7 day period. Until then it’s just pure speculation. This winter has shown that the models beyond day 7 have been extremely unreliable. If your waiting for low land snow in Salem or Everett good luck waiting…LOL

  10. Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

    On a different note.

    Some more unforecasted showers moving into Western Washington as I speak.

    Wow, that high pressure is so strong. Looks to me like a flop in the other direction.

    • Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

      18z still showing the pattern shift for early Feb.

    • Yevpolo1990 says:

      7-9 days away, aint too bad

    • Joshua in Lake Oswego says:

      It looks cooler, but dry as a bone.

    • Ben (Beaverton - 775 ft.) says:

      Good afternoon, Wishcasters.

      So, what is the 384 hour forecast looking like now?? I bet it shows a pattern change!!! If we can get it within hour 300…BOOK IT!! Done Deal!

      Realistically, c’mon, admit it, this Winter is dying a quick death and nothing really shows any sign of that changing. The East will continue to get deep trough after deep trough, while we’re left with ridging or SW flow.

    • Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

      Fad-ing, but not Fad-ed.

    • thomas says:

      I agree that trusting the models that far out is ridiculous but winter is not over yet. We will just have to wait and see what happens. In the mean time Enjoy the sun shine!

  11. Emz in Tigard says:

    Congrats everyone! May your marriages all be blessed. 😀

    • TAGinGresham says:

      Wishing you all wonderful weddings! And for Emz, we need some exciting weather so that we have a reason to chat!!!

  12. WEATHERDAN says:

    There is no pattern shift in the offfing. Those so called experts at places such as accuweather and TWC have been calling for one and it hasn’t happened yet. I still think we will have a nice warm and very early spring and a hot summer. Besides at this point so late in the season why would you want some cold and snow now. I for one am glad to see the sun this week. At 1:31 PM Salem is mostly sunny and 55 degrees.

    • Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

      Yep, break out the flip-flops on January 25th *sarcasm*.

      Are you mentally stable Dan?

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      Sorry Josh I don’t usually feed TROLLS. But since you asked so nicely I will reply to your question. Yes I am mentally stable. Are you mentally stable?

    • Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

      Yes, I am mentally stable.

      Reason I asked is that you have been going on for 3 weeks about the demise of winter in January of all months.

      Based on that it is a very reasonable question. Who in their right mind thinks winter is over from Jan 1st to Jan 25th? Who? It’s nonsense.

    • Eternal Yamcha (SE Milwaukie) says:

      What’s more likely going to happen is a cold spring… Heck, if I decide to let my defeatist side take over my rational side (like far too many here) I would say that we’re just gonna repeat 2010.

      “Mild” January/February, average March, cold April, May, June.

    • jeff says:

      2 weeks ago twc forecast the ridge currently over the west coast long before any of the clueless dopes who forecast here in portland,at that time they predicted that the last half of january would be dry and mild and that the trough over the east coast would win out.Well we all know what has developed there is a pattern change in the offing for the early part of february and the cpc will obviously verify this with their update for february due out january 31.Perk up peeps everythng will be just fine…..

    • Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

      Good, sound, post..Jeff.

      I’ve seen it since early this month. It’s just going to be 7-10 days behind the pattern shift I was seeing for the end of this month.

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      Here is a short list of years with no significant low level cold weather events after February first in the Willamette Valley. 2010, 2009, 2004, 2003, 1997, 1994, 1992, 1991, 1988, 1987, 1984, 1983, 1981, 1978, 1977, 1975, 1974, 1973, 1972, 1970. About half of the last 40 winters saw no sticking snow on the valley floor after January 31st. If you take that out to February 15th you can add to that list 1976, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1989, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005. So since the winter of 1969-1970 that leaves us 1970-1971, 1989-1990, 1992-1993, 1994-1995, 2005-2006. That’s 5 winters over the last 40 years. That comes out to 12,5%. And in only 1 of those years 2005-2006 was that the only truly event of the year. So the chance of us having a miraculous weather turnaround from what has been a warm and wet winter to a cold and snowy one is extremely unlikely. As far as having another cool summer in 2011, lets look at the facts. since 1970 it has been customary in Salem to have approximately 60 days each summer over 80 degrees. Last year we had 55 days over 80. So it was close to normal in Salem. We had 20 more days over 80 than did PDX. These are the years since 1970 we have had less than 60 days over 80 in Salem 1971, 1976, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1983, 1988, 1989, 1993, 1996, 2000, 2010. That comes out to about 29% of the time. So 71% of the summers were either at or above normal. So again the odds are for at least a normal summer this year. I’m just looking at the current weather patterns and past climatology Josh. I don’t know what you are looking at.

    • Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

      And again, your numbers came from only Salem, Oregon.

      Many of us have seen much more than that in February/March here on the westside.

      I’m sorry that you live at 300′ or less elevation in Salem and think that nothing every happens elsewhere. I too would be depressed about things.

      2 years ago it snowed on May 24th here at my home in Everett. It only lasted for 10 minutes but it did, indeed happen. I’ve also had at least 10 to 15 instances of sticking snow into mid/late March. Again, 2 years ago we had 5 inches on April 16th at sea level and a town just 4 miles east of me at 500′ elevation had 11.5 inches.

      I also remember in March ’03 of going to bed at 12 AM with the OD temp at 64 deg. I woke up for work at 5:30 and it was 34 deg and snowing.

      I’m not big into those statistics of which you speak, especially when they are for only Salem, OR.

      I know that cool stuff can happen, up to and including widespread snow to very low elevations, from now until at least March 15th if not longer.

    • Yevpolo1990 says:

      actually Josh is right…

    • TAGinGresham says:

      Here we go again. Same story, different day. And why wouldn’t I want snow in the winter? What a crazy question.

    • WEATHERDAN says:

      Gee Josh only talking about Salem. Why you’re right. I forgot to mention Chicago or New York. Of course I’m only talking about Salem. You live 250 miles further North and your climate is much different. In July when we hit 95 degrees you might be in the low 80,s. Yes I’m sure you stand a greater chance of getting snow in February. Usually you have 3 or 4 times every winter when you have snow and we don,t. Conversely we average about 17 days each summer over 90 degrees. I think you get about 2 or 3 days each summer over 90 degrees. This blog attracts people from all over, but the KPTV viewing area is the Portland/Vancouver metro area and the Willamette Valley. So when I am posting about the weather it about that area. If I wanted to discuss the weather way up North in Everett I would go to a blog at the website of KOMO or KIRO.

  13. Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

    Stephanie missed her chance with me, oh well.

    But that’s ok, I’ll still be here when you get divorced, look me up.

  14. Cgavic sandy Oregon 1,100 ft says:

    Wedding bells

    Reports from the base at ski bowl are less than 10 inches.
    Mask you’re saying both men, and women, are trying to hitch up to the weather center.

    Oregon has become a well diversified state

  15. bgb41 says:

    12Z GFS @ Troutdale

    Seeing some cooling at the end of the run again. Awfully far out though. Looking like some really nice days Wed/Thurs this week.

    I want to say that the GFS has done really poorly last 3 days. I have had measurable rain each day up here which was not forecast.

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      Nice to see the glimmer of hope out there, it’ll keep me from getting so close to the edge of the cliff…for now.

    • W7ENK says:

      All the more incentive to throw yourself off when that end-of-the-run cold snap finally fades away at the end of March. If that doesn’t getchya, then maybe when it starts showing back up inside hour-60 by early June? Either way, I’m steering clear of this ride until November.

      Pardon me for being a little model shy. 😕

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      By March my focus will have changed to a relentless watch for Stray Albino Donkeys.

    • Eternal Yamcha (SE Milwaukie) says:

      Someone’s actually taking the models at face value? LUL.

      But I will admit, at least the dates aren’t changing THAT much like they did last year when, with each new day, the models pushed the cold/warm air back a full day.

      So yes, there IS some hope.

    • Eternal Yamcha (SE Milwaukie) says:

      Forgot to mention:

      I DO like the 60s. If we get a sunny 60 that’ll make me happy… I mean January 2005 when we hit the all time high was amazing. Shorts in January.

  16. Sarah (E. Gresham) says:

    I’ll have to break the news to my husband that Sophie is getting married….I’m pretty sure that’s the only reason he watches the weather report.

  17. A nice mostly sunny morning after a low of 34.4°.

  18. Tyler in Battle Ground says:

    A few sprinkles up here in BG, 45 degrees. It never got very cold, just 44 degrees.

    Looking forward to the sunshine!

  19. W7ENK says:

    First of all, congrats to the newly engaged!

    Mark, I’m glad you clarified; when you said “Andy and I are still married” I couldn’t help but chuckle! Although, you two would make an adorable couple… just sayin’! 😉

    Anyone have any idea what conditions at Timberline might be like on Saturday? Sunny, cloudy, snowing, 20, 60, just so long as it’s not raining. It’s 4 days out, so models should have a fairly decent grasp on things, I would hope. 😆

  20. Karl Bonner says:

    The new GFS:

    Only two things stand out here. First is that 850mb temps start to cool off this weekend, which should bring us back down to more seasonable conditions. Second is that the inversion conditions we’re expected to get the next 3 or 4 days probably won’t continue after that; the ridging looks a lot less crisp after Friday.

    And there’s a cold air teaser the last couple frames, but that’s a full week into February. I’d gratefully accept a little cold snap that far out. We may finally get a nice snowstorm. Also it would thicken up our blood again. And finally, the strengthening sun might make it possible to jump all the way up to 60 only a day or two after the thaw begins. And if we’ve gotten used to cold again, the change will be especially dramatic.

    All this is pure speculation. We don’t know whether a February cold snap would be immediately succeeded by a spring-like warm spell, or if the cold snap will even happen in the first place.

  21. bgb41 says:

    1/24/2011 Oregon (All) Temperature Summary

    High:66 at ILLINOIS VALLEY(1389 ft)
    Low: 48 at RED MOUND(1753 ft) & NEWPRT Cape Foul(1024 ft)

    High:34 at CW7477 Lostine(7002 ft) & HARL BUTTE(6071 ft) & HOWARD Mt Howard(8150 ft)
    Low:19 at Burns Municipal (4144 ft )

    Largest Diurnal Change: 35 degrees
    ILLINOIS VALLEY ( 66/31 ) (1389 ft )

    Heaviest Rainfall:
    0.34″ at MEARES Cape Mear(1421ft)

  22. Sifton says:

    Stephs ol’ man is 1 lucky SOB!!

  23. jeff says:

    twc reported today that a pattern change was in the mix for february as the block over greenland was showing signs of breaking down and that the east coast would be warmer and that the pnw would be turning colder as the arctic air makes a move more west of the continental divide.

    • yevpolo1990 says:

      oooo, great news!

    • W7ENK says:

      Hahaha! Yeah, right. I’ll believe it when I see it.

      How long of a process with that be, I have to wonder? The pattern will probably shift just in time for Memorial Day weekend, making the entire summer suck. Dreams of a year without 90 degree temps might become a reality? That should make some of you really happy… congratulations! 😦

    • W7ENK says:

      *WILL that be… ugh! :facepalm:

      I’m SO not awake right now. :yawn:

  24. Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

    First. Live. Local. Then Wed!

  25. Yevpolo1990 says:

    Congrats steph! 🙂
    And also to Brian!
    And Sophie as well!

    I think Pat is going to be next in a year or two, who knows?

  26. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Thanks for the update, Yenta Nelsen and congrats to the three.

    Wellllll I don’t know what was more disappointing tonight? The 00z GFS or the Blazers. Yikes…. So, we move on and see what 00z EURO and 12Z offers up tomorrow.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Klamath Falls @ 4200') says:

      Both are equally as disappointing. I think EURO/GFS will not change. Just my two cents.

  27. hiophil says:

    Andrew J.

    I thought I would answer here as it’s too far back now to post a reply.

    The farm is in London, Ky. The original north-south wagon road ran along the east side of the farm as the ford on the Little Laurel river was on the farm. My Grandfather found a number of old coins at the ford.

    Supposedly Daniel Boone used the ford in his trips through the state.

    To make it weather releated, the other odd thing is that the farm has had two-maybe three tornado’s in the last 25 years as well. One of which tore a 200′ wide path through the timber on the south end.

    • Andrew Johnson says:

      Thanks! That’s an interesting bit of history behind the area and that is also pretty crazy that 2-3 tornado’s have hit during the past 25 years. I wonder what the statistical odds of that would be? From what I’ve seen of Kentucky it is a beautiful state. A little to humid in the summer though!

    • Punxsutawney (aka HIOPHIL) at work by Sunset High elev ~280' says:

      There’s something about the Cumberland Plateau/Ohio River Valley that seems to be a hot spot for tornados. If you look at a map of frequency it’s one of the highest areas outside of Tornado Alley. But again, they never seemed to happen when my Mom was growing up.

      The big one came through in the middle of the night, around 2am as well. My Grandparents were asleep and it had come and gone before they could make it to the basement. Fortunately, it was about a 3/4 mile away from the house. 2am is not your typical tornado hour.

      As to humid, no kidding. I feel it’s worse in the summertime than tropical places I have been. And it seems to have every nasty stinging/biting insect known to man as well. Though the fireflies are really cool and I’m glad my kids have been there to see them.

      The reward for all that humidity is some rocking t-storms at times.

  28. bgb41 says:

    00Z GFS @ Troutdale

    0.51″ of total precip.

    Aw Snap, Steph is getting married!

    • W7ENK says:

      I know, right? 😥

      At least I still have the signed photo of her that I won in the raffle at Stark Street Pizza last fall… *sigh*

  29. Mike (Orchards 255') says:

    Congrats to all three of them!


  30. weathergirl - colton 1000 ft says:

    Is raining lightly here…

  31. Andrew Johnson says:

    Thanks for the update and Congrats to those three! Speaking from experience the next 6-8 months will go by very quickly for them and they’ll definitely be very busy getting ready!

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  33. Christiana says:

    Congrats to them and thanks for the update Mark.

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