One More Nice Day

Looks like Sunday will be the last warm and dry day for awhile.  All the models agreeing on troughing in the western USA all next week.  Of course the big disappointment, already noted in the comments earlier, is the change in the Monday forecast.  Instead of the approaching system splitting and heading for California (delaying the onset of rainfall), it’s coming right on in by Monday afternoon at the latest.

The screaming message is to get your dry weather projects done by early Monday…or over the weekend.  I just got my big load of Zoo-Doo delivered today…12 square yards of beautiful, steaming, composted elephant, giraffe, and rhinocerous poop.  The zoo donates it to various causes; I picked up mine at an auction.  I hear it’s good stuff…in fact my dog was eating it within about 2 minutes.  Another reason not to have a dog in the future once this guy finishes out his happy life capped off by the steaming pile of dung.

Alright…time is running out on this Friday evening.  I’ll be on Sunday night, so if I get a minute I’ll post some thoughts on next week’s weather then.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

109 Responses to One More Nice Day

  1. muxpux says:

    ughh, i hate this crappy weather during the week, and then nice on the weekends, figures that i work weekends, haha.

    im sure it pleases the general public though.

  2. Jesse-Orchards says:

    Wow, I see Mark has really jumped on those nice model runs for next weekend. Careful man, you don’t want to get burnt again, do you? 😉

    • Justin (Brush Prairie) says:

      Speaking of getting burnt, this trough is looking dry and wholly unimpressive. Not much cold air to speak of.

      Just another lame week of weather in the PNW. I have to say that 2010 has probably been the worst meteorological start to a year ever.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Eh, 850 mb temps bottom out at -3 on the latest runs. I think the coldest they were ever progged to get was -6. Not shabby for the end of April. The mountains should get some decent snow too, and the cold air sticks around basically all work week. At least it will get April below normal B)

      Also, the trough is still predicted to cover the entire west. It will be an impressively amplified pattern for this late in the season.

      As for 2010 being the worst meteorological start to the year ever, January/February were big contenders, but it hasn’t been bad since March, IMO.

    • Justin (Brush Prairie) says:

      The effects here will be pretty interchangeable with the rest of what we’ve been seeing recently, regardless of what it’s like in the upper levels or the mountains. In large part the weather will be dull and crappy. Temps in the mid 50’s, light rain Monday night followed by light and sporadic showers, then drab overcast for a few more days.

      January and February were the pits. March was dull, and this month has been as well. December 29 literally was our last weather event of any significance, unless you consider the run of the mill gust storms we had earlier this month to be significant. Most of the time it’s just been cloudy and dull since then. Our climate is so inept.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      I think for this year things improved slightly starting the second week of March, then drastically the last week. The period of weather from about March 28 – April 10th was pretty enjoyable, IMO, probably the best stretch of the year so far as far as activity is concerned. And I was aching for active weather after that horrible Jan/Feb.

      Hopefully this trough provides us with some sort of unexpected excitement, then we have a May with lots of sunshine/t-storms/ and temp variability that somehow finds a way to average below normal. After that, a wet summer for once (lots of convective precip) would be a welcome change as well. Then of course a fairly dry, gloriously cold/crisp fall.

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      Look at all that beautiful instability in the gulf coming our way.

    • Battle Ground Brian says:


      I agree with the possiblity of a below normal summer temperature-wise. I am not happy about that.

    • Justin (Brush Prairie) says:

      Cool, crappy weather is not my thing unless there’s some serious rain to go with it. The problem with this year is that all of the cloudy weather has come with below normal rainfall, and basically has come at the expense of nicer, sunny weather. This month has been predictably montonous. Lots of cloudy, dry days, which is the worst kind of weather.

      I don’t care what the temps average out to be this summer so long as there’s plenty of 90+ events and something out of the ordinary. As for above normal rainfall, I wouldn’t count on it. I seriously question whether we will ever have a truly wet summer here (i.e. 1983 or 1968) again. We can’t even get a wet month.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Yeah, I understand Battle Ground Brian. We’ve suffered through soooo many cool summers lately.

      Oh wait, we haven’t had one for almost ten years, and have hit 102 or better the past four.

    • Been awhile, but…Flab5 point of view…
      …I’d just like to point out that in all the lust for cooler crappy weather, some of us depend on nice warm days to make some money, and sunny non eventful weather works a lot better…in addition to making grandpa’s rhuematism less likely to act up!

    • Justin (Brush Prairie) says:

      Wanting a cool summer is and always will be akin to wanting a warm winter. It’s silly and if you want a climate like that then go to San Francisco.

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      We will get plenty of boring non eventful weather, can’t see any reason to rush it.

    • W7ENK says:

      Or San Diego, one of the few places on Earth where weather basically doesn’t exist, most of the time.

      “Today, sunny, 75 degrees, wind calm becoming light from the west in the evening. Tonight, fog, 65 degrees, wind calm.” x 365!

    • Andrew Johnson says:

      I’m going to go out on a limb and say that summer in the PNW will be much cooler than the last few.

  3. Mr Data says:

    The videos won’t play when I push the play button.

    It’s as if the videos do not exist yet I can see the video-frame.

  4. W7ENK says:

    4 rows of sweet corn
    3 hanging tomato plants
    2 planters of p!$$3d-off transplanted strawberries, and
    1 rack of raspberries…

    two tired feet
    two dirty hands
    one sore back
    and a sunburned shocky avocado tree!

    It’s been a productive weekend – time for a glass of Mead while watching the sunset in the back yard amongst my newest veggie-babies. 🙂

    … and I just realized I haven’t left my property all weekend. 😯

    69.8°F today’s high (Yay!)
    36.9°F this morning’s low (Eeek!)
    Peak wind W at 8.3 mph
    No rain… yet.

  5. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Since it is so nice outside and our weather at the moment isn’t exciting..


    Yep, that’s right…

    2 chaser cams with active weather showing live.

    One is in South Carolina watching and unsure of the other.

  6. Snow-Zone/Monmouth-Elv200' says:

    Looking at the visible satellite imagery, the storm system looks impressive. Really huge and wrapping up…

  7. Mr Data says:

    Does thou knowth when we shalt talk about Oregon weather again?

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      When we see storms here then thou knowth when we shalt talk about Oregon weather once again 😉

  8. Mr Data says:

    Poor Timmy. 😦

    If I ever have to go thru a bad and stupid disaster I would rather it be mother nature’s then a terriost attack or germ warfare any day. 😛

    58F and filtered sunshien with BINOVC to the north. (breaks in overcast)

  9. Charles Dalton @ NWS (aka ChuckyD81) says:

    Farewell everybody. I am moving on from this great town of Portland…back to the land of thunderstorms. I’ve been here at the NWS in Portland for 4yrs this month. My time has finally come to move on however, and I now make the trek back east to Arkansas. I will be the newest general forecaster at the Little Rock office.

    Before I go however, I thought I would make one last post on the blog here for “old times sake.”

    I have enjoyed watching this blog over the past 4yrs. This blog has been a valuable resource at times…especially during winter weather when you all report temps and precip from about the area. Furthermore, it has been interesting to see you grow in your knowledge about the weather. You’ve gone from knowing essentially nothing about the workings of weather and forecasting, to having a decent grasp on things. I encourage you to keep enjoying and learning about the weather.

    Keep up the weather watching!

    • HIO Phil (Punxsutawney) elevation 189' says:


      Certainly the land of thunderstorms and more. I’m sure it won’t be long before you have to issue a tornado watch or warning.

      Good Luck to you Chucky. I wish you the best, and it was nice meeting you at the AMS/Blog events over the last couple of years.

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Chucky, it was great having you on the blog even the times you challenged me 😆 A great learning experience nonetheless. Hope all goes well in Arkansas. Feel free to chime in from time to time here would ya?

  10. Snowhound says:

    Yeah I grew up in the midwest as well Jim and I have to say; it is one thing to watch stuff on TV but it is entirely another to live it.

    When you’re trying to comprehend and get your mind around standing there looking at 1/2-mile wide destruction and 1-mile wide debris fields, 50-miles long, from a supercell who’s diameter was 2 times that of the Portland metro area. It makes you feel the size of an ant.

    The same holds true for those that grew up in the midwest and never experienced a real wind storm. I had no idea what it was like to see sustained powerful winds until I experienced it on the coast. There was no way I could by seeing it on TV other than using my imagination from experiencing strong gusts from T-storms.

    I recommend to anyone passionate about severe weather you take a trip to the midwest and actually see some – maybe go on a storm chasing expedition. It will forever change you.

    Even if you don’t see a tornado, you will see things you never have before if you’ve never left the PNW.

  11. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I am actually glad I wasn’t looking at any of the skycams when that big tornado Yazoo City. I just don’t think I could really look into the eyes of something like that without being in awe.

    the storm itself is cool, but not when it has its eyes set on certain locations…

  12. Mr Data says:

    *Expensive* not expansive. 😛

    Good nite.

  13. Mr Data says:

    *Turns off that big and expansive fancy light bulb that Rob left on*

    40.5F and Klear. 🙂

  14. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    (Very long post)
    This is why I am fascinated with severe weather, and why I also track severe storms/provide analysis.

    As a child I always loved storms, but just the lightning, not the thunder. I was scared of thunder. By the time I was 8 or 9 it did not bother me any longer. All I knew was when we had storms there would be lightning, but any factor of danger to myself, or my family never crept into my mind. Of course I knew lightning was dangerous, so I never, ever went outside for fears of being struck. I always watched the weather on our local news channels and when we got The Weather Channel I watched it frequently. By the time I was 13 or 14 I started to learn more and more about the weather, what causes storms, why do they form, but still never had any understanding or comprehension for their danger. Late in my teens I really became fascinated with learning more and more about how things work, how the atmosphere causes certain weather phenomena to occur.

    I did not realize or understand the true power of nature until I started to really understand storms, dynamics, and how to properly read radar, to interpret different storms structures, velocities modes, and other information pertaining to severe thunderstorms. Still I really had no conceivable comprehension for the damage they cause, the fear they strike in people, and the inherent danger people are in at times. It was not until 3 years ago when I began to take the knowledge I felt I had, or instincts whatever you wish to call them and applied them to actual real-time severe storm analysis. Not so much forecasting of events, perhaps in the very short term 3-6 hour window, but just real-time up to the second/minute storm analysis. I have to say at first it was my fascination with severe thunderstorms that drove me to do so, made me enjoy storms and meteorology that much more.

    The simple fact that we in the PNW do not get true severe weather outbreaks is why when we do get our storms we are overjoyed, we are excited, we can’t get enough of them. Sure most of our “outbreaks” are elevated in nature which really means for us minimal risks of large hail or damaging winds. We rare if ever see surface based outbreaks where the real damaging weather/tornadoes occur. I have learned just an immense amount those past 3 years providing analysis dozens of times primarily for the Dallas/Fort Worth area. I didn’t waltz into their town, into their chat room trying to be the big dog, the know-it-all, I just wanted to track these storms, watch them unfold upon my eyes, relay info with other Skywarn Spotters and Chasers. I did it for the fascination. To my surprise I did quite well with understanding the atmosphere, the dynamics, and cell structure. I think perhaps that is because I doubted myself, or the fact that I am not a degreed meteorologist, not an “offical” storm spotter with years of training or schooling.

    I can remember the first day I joined in their MyFox DFW chatango weather chat it was a memorable night to say the least. A squall line exploded just west of the Midland/Odessa, Texas area which then races eastward gaining momentum and strength. I tracked it non-stop for 12 hours. More and more people would filter into their live chat room. Soon 100, then 200… then 500 asking numerous questions and lots of “any tornadoes tonight?” As the line approached the western side of the DFW area it became hectic. Myself and other analysis/spotters could barely type out the information fast enough before it was scrolled off the screen due to residents nearly in panic due to the threat of tornadoes. Now surely I had seen picture and even videos of past tornado outbreaks in “tornado alley”, but I still had no comprehension for the fear these folks had. There were 5-6 storm analysts/spotters trying to relay info in the chat room of what we saw on velocities mode on radar. We were having to tell people to take shelter immediately. We had to even YELL in caps.

    I believe it was around 4 AM and the line was moving just east of Dallas. I noticed a comma head at the top of the line which is quite common. I checked Base/Storm Relative Velocities and saw a distinct couplet moving towards Plano. There were NO warnings at the time. I knew better…. By now there were about 300 people and things were calming down in the heart of DFW. I knew what I saw on radar was a tornado, it had to be. I knew I had to say something with a lot of guts and be absolutely certain I was correct. If not all I would be doing was to panic people. So I asked anyone if they were in the Plano, McKinney areas to take shelter immediately a tornado is imminent. A few people spoke up and said “What!!!!? WHERE? there’s no warning from the NWS or Fox4 or WFAA” I said trust me if you are in these location please immediately seek shelter. I was in CAPS telling anyone in the chat this repeatedly. A few people said “OKAY going now going now” .. Well guess what an F2/F3 hit Plano/McKinney minutes later. Finally a warning is issued maybe 5 minutes later. I would say 20 minutes later some people in chat told me they had just been hit by a tornado… or that their house is damaged that they are in their closet on laptop.. Asking me if it’s safe now. Telling me how extremely thankful they were for me to warn them.

    And…. That’s when it hit me and I now was beginning to understand, to comprehend the real life threatening danger people in tornado alley and really anywhere east of the Rockies face. That’s when I went from “Oh wow this is so cool…. I hope that storm becomes a supercell with a huge hook” to, “I really hope this structure falls apart. Maybe the couplet is over a sparsely populated area.” … I understand now. When you see the dynamics/instability in place yesterday and you read the SPC info, look at the Mesoscale Analysis charts, Thermodynamic Fields, Shear charts you really do not want to see any severe weather develop because you know the conditions for a monster wedge were in place. I watched on streaming cam the F4? hit Yazoo City. My mouth was open in awe and I had that bad feeling in my gut. I am know that in the future I will never stop tracking severe storms or providing analysis, but now it is not just for the fascination, it is to keep people safe, aware, and to perhaps even teach them things so they just don’t run in a panic, but to understand storms, why they are or aren’t tornadic/damaging. I know that I don’t know everything say an SPC forecaster does, surely not by a long shot, and I know I have much to learn, but this is what I was meant to do, to help people.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      Great post! I can relate to this; I was scared of thunder too. When I was 8 or 10 years old, I loved watching storms, but the noise of thunder just got me a little jumpy, for some odd reason. And a number of years later, an interest developed in my mind, branching off of the same question: “Why do storms happen, and how?”

      and it must have been scary for those 500+ people on the DFW chat site that day, I usually miss chats when severe weather is going on, so I can’t imagine that. And I know you like helping out a lot, all of the information and insight you give us is cool.

    • Chuck on Mt Scott says:

      Nice post Rob. I grew up in St Pete FL in the 70’s and I recall as a kid storms 30 miles away rumbling in the night. Every few minutes, the rumbles would get closer. It freaked me out. By the time I was in my teens, I would sit on my front porch and watch the storms get closer. Even watching lightning hitting tv antenna across my street. Watched as hurricanes would come close, but no direct hits. Saw amazing water spouts and a couple tornadoes. To this day I find the weather fascinating and am a fan. I do not get into chart analysis or stuff like that, but enjoy everyone’s input on this blog. I tend to come to the blog for more current weather forecasting as the area stations do not update as quickly as conditions can change around the NW.

      Cheers to all you fans and above.

    • Jim in N. Tabor says:

      Interesting post Rob. Took me longer to read that than reading the sports page this morning. I used to live in the midwest and have seen first hand the power of tornadoes and severe weather. Never want to see that here, just too much damage and destruction which impacts so many lives. I’ll take our relatively calmer weather anytime.

    • W7ENK says:

      Wow, that’s quite amazing, Rob! Good for you, helping those people out like that, and from a thousand miles away, no less! No doubt your efforts saved lives that night.

      I’ll try to keep mine short. 😆 By fascination stems from a long time ago, beginning with some MASSIVE storms in Minnesota when I was 9. Then in 7th grade, science class, spent two weeks learning about weather. The timing is all a bit fuzzy, but we had a massive thunderstorm sweep up the valley early one afternoon soon thereafter, got so bad outside our Art teacher made everyone sit against the wall in the hallway, then lightning hit a tree just outside the Art room windows!

      Also, same spring, I don’t remember if it was before or after that storm, but the idea of rotating thunderstorms and specifically wall clouds was fresh in my mind. One evening after school, I heard a rumble of to the Southeast, stepped out back to have a look and lo-and-behold if I wasn’t looking at a freakin’ wall cloud! We were avid watchers of KOIN-6 at the time, so I called their weather number and actually talked to Mark’s old cohort, Jim Little. I reported what I saw, and he swung their tower cam around to look toward Oregon City, and sure enough, he says “Huh, yeah, that does look like a wall cloud!” And then complimented me on my keen weather eye. I can’t remember if a warning was ever issued for that storm or not, but that was such a catalyzing experience…

      Now, I’m hooked! 🙂

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      W7ENK, that storm would be in the early 1980’s, correct if I’m wrong? I realize I wasn’t even alive to witness that storm, but I did learn about an intense thunderstorm that dropped large hail and buckets of rain/wind sometime in 1984 or something like that. I believe parts like Sandy, or Gresham got hit the hardest.

    • W7ENK says:

      In 1984, I wasn’t old enough to use a phone and hadn’t yet discovered that clouds actually move. 1993 – One of the most active springtimes I remember! I’m not that old, Timmy… :p

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      Oh so it was probably May 1993 then.

    • W7ENK says:

      Also, 1984 might have been a bit before Jim Little’s time on KOIN? I’m not sure, though… I didn’t start paying attention to the news until about the 6th grade. Before that, my weekday afternoons were satisfied by the likes of cartoons, ‘Carmen San Diego’ and ‘Dr. Who’ before dinner. 🙂

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Hey thanks for reading my extremely lengthy post I appreciate you doing so and am glad you liked it. I enjoyed reading your accounts as well of what it was like when you grew up, what things about storms fascinate you, and our common bond for the great respect of the power of mother nature. Maybe this year will be the 2nd time I’ve had golf ball sized hail at my house out here in far S.E. Portland. I too like our more benign weather, but I tend to “root” for our storms because they really rarely become damaging. I will take an overnight episode of frequent lightning any day.

  15. Scott in SLC formerly in S.Corvallis says:

    Just getting back from work here in Memphis, Tn. I arrived last night about 7 local time. Here Training for 3 weeks until I get back to SLC. Have to tell you absolutly amazing severe weather. To be honest pretty “scary” I arrived to strong storms, checked into hotel, then was driven out of bed at 230 am to an unbeliveable Severe storm, thunder was the loudest I have herad in my life. ( I grew up on the east coast and have seen some storms but….) Unbelivable lighting, and thunder all kinds of warnings on Tv at 245am passed in about 30 minutes but great coverage by local mets and they have some of the slickest tools in forecasting severe weather. Awoke at 730 to more action crazy the atmosphere was so “fired up” that early in the day but it continued untill 9 then a break, went into work and we were hit again about 1230 huge golf ball hail and rain like I have never seen, I lived in Oregon for 12 yrs but never rained like this. We escaped most damage but just south of here in Miss was the “killere twister” 10 dead also east of memphis by an hour another bad one. It was very exciting but also crazy & sad for all those folks. Just thought I would send you all first hand info. Looks like the trough & upper disturbance that hits you early in the week is going to drop snow to valley floors in SLC wed then we will get another round next Fri/Sat we shall see. I’ll send an update and photos then if I can. Sorry for the long post but for all “weather geeks” this was incrediable to go through”!

  16. Mr Data says:

    *quit* I meant to say. I HATE typos with a passion.

  17. Mr Data says:

    Hello hello?………………….Maybe I should turn off the lights. *flips switch*

    Switch: Quite turning me!

  18. HIO Phil (Punxsutawney) elevation 189' says:

    It appears a tornado just missed my mother’s farm in Kentucky:

    Just my Aunt there at the moment and there is a basement at the house in case of trouble. I frankly wouldn’t live in that part of the world without a basement, or a tornado room as a former co-worker of mine who didn’t really believe me when he moved to Nashville found out. F2/F3 tornado came through in the early afternoon and split the distance from his house to his kid’s gradeschool. Did damage to his yard/fence and neighboors house. Hard for us Northwesterners, at least the non weather-geeks to understand the hell a big tornado can be. I grew up with stories about Minnesota storms and my parents were more scared of tornados than earthquakes.

    • My Daughter lived in Kansas City for a few years and was petrified of the severe weather. She got a close up look of what golf-ball sized + hail could do….cracked her windshield!


  19. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    And once again its dead on the blog.

  20. jbpdx says:

    the change in the monday forecast is pure evidence why “7-day forecasts” are totally worthless an unbelievable. i never pay attention to them. why do they bother? oh, and by the way: i’m sick of rain and cold.
    so thursday’s gonna be a lousy day too? yeah right…

  21. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Just one more thing to share, then its over 🙂

    I basically have the mind of a storm chaser, and there is not one second when my mind is ever off of storms. I always think about storms. I can’t help it. Sorry.

  22. Mr Data says:

    And how does summer look water-wise with the drought sneaking up?

    Are you guys up in Portland going to be rationing water?

  23. Mr Data says:

    I knew what you meant Timmy and I don’t blame you what with our creeping drought going on since 2007.


    Timmy some people want to make this blog PC. (politically incorrect) like the way the rest of our nation is going to make a loooooooooooooong story short since this isn’t a political blog and I am glad it isn’t so.

    Internet and politics do not mix like drinking and driving or drug and driving.

  24. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    To ned the conversation, I do not need destruction to fulfill my needs, just simply looking at a storm cloud is good enough for me. I didn’t intend to spark a conversation like this. Incase I blurt out statements like that in the future, don’t take it too lightly.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      And I do hate typos… 🙂

      “To end the conversation” is the correct way to put it

  25. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Everybody here is probably so mad at places like Arkansas and Missouri for their tornadoes and hailstorms, while are waiting for a drop of rain.

    • dabears (Hillsboro-Tanasbourne) says:

      When your house is destroyed and your family killed by a tornado, come back and tell me you still want that.

      Come on.

    • W7ENK says:

      Oh, I’m not upset at our lack of EF-5 tornadoes, Timmy, I’m not even jealous. I’m glad we don’t have to deal with them THAT big! I don’t mind the occasional EF-0 or EF-1 when they suck up dirt and tree branches, scare the cows or maybe flatten an abandoned barn here and there, but honestly, the prospect of significant property damage and loss of life scares the zoo-poo out of me!

      I’ve seen golf-ball sized hail first hand, and subsequently seen the aftermath of soft-ball sized hail and driven through the damage path of a large tornado before (St. Cloud, Minnesota, August 1988)… Not in my neighborhood, thank you very nice! 😯

      I had that… thing… whatever it was (I swear, there was evidence of rotational winds in a narrow, 1/2 mile long path, but Tyree wouldn’t send someone out to look at it!!!) pass directly over my house last May. That was good enough for me. 😆

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      Thats not really what I was pointing at Dabears, I was just saying that we aren’t having severe thunderstorms and they are.

      I have to explain myself everytime I blurt this kind of thing out. Maybe I just won’t say it anymore. 😉

      Anyways, maybe I should have said: “Why are they having thunderstorms and we aren’t?”

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      And to be honest, I just logged back on the internet after posting that, so I had no clue there even was an EF5 tornado anywhere in the US. Cut me some slack.

    • W7ENK says:

      I’m not harpin’ on you, Timmy. I understand your affinity for crazy weather. I’m just saying I’m glad we don’t get it that bad here. 🙂

      Given the opportunity, I’d LOVE to go chase on a day like today in the Midwest/South! Maybe someday… *sigh*

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      Oh once I get my hands on any storm chase… Thats all I would live on, to be truthful! I just better watch out for a times like May 3 1999. That day was almost too excessively dangerous for anyone outside.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      I do admit, things in the Midwest can be flat out creepy. I was on the Weather Channel when Greensburg was about to be hit the EF5 tornado. That was something, I sure wouldn’t like being forced awake hearing that on the TV…

    • W7ENK says:

      Maybe you remember the exact dates, Timmy? I remember watching a really bad tornado outbreak live on TV (probably the Weather Channel) when I was living in the dorms at OIT in Klamath Falls. It was right after the 1st of April in 2003… That was a bad couple of days in the midwest!

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      May 4th 2007, when over 90% of Greensburg was literally wiped out. They are still rebuilding that town even today.

      In my opinion, they should have just left Greensburg, because what are they going to do if another tornado hits the town? I mean I feel sorry for everyone effected by the tornado, but rebuilding such a location is just not right.

    • W7ENK says:

      I agree with you there, but the day I’m thinking of was definitely in April 2003. That was the only spring I lived in the dorms thus had cable; the other two years I lived in my own apartment. I know I didn’t watch it there, because I only picked up 2 and a half channels on my TV there 😆

  26. W7ENK says:

    It’s so quiet in here.

    Crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets … crickets …



    Mostly sunny, 58.6°F, still breezy, had about 30 seconds of drizzle about an hour ago.

    Dirt’s all mixed and set, ready and waiting… Strawberries moved, Raspberries – maybe later this evening, Tomatoes tomorrow.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      I’m here too!

      Funny, we didn’t even really have rain today, it might have sprinkled for about 2 or 3 minutes, but other than that, nothing.

  27. W7ENK says:

    After a couple of hours outside (it’s chilly!) I’m taking a break. 55.6 right now, a little breezy and there’ve been sun breaks around, but it has been constantly clouded in my neighborhood all day. I came in a few minutes ago because there was a big dark nasty looking cloud moving over… Oh, never mind, the sun just broke out. 🙂 YAY!

    Bad news in MS… my heart goes out to the people in those towns. 😦

    My sister is worried about Florida tomorrow, she lives in Orlando, lots of activity in the Gulf, and she says it’s HOT and MUGGY today…

  28. ChuckyD81 says:

    Unfortunately, it looks like that Yazoo City, MS tornado was a deadly one.

    This is just my opinion, but I would be surprised (based solely off this article) to see this tornado get an EF-5 rating.

    An EF-3, or potentially EF-4 rating isn’t out of the question though…again, based solely off the info in this article.

  29. Justin (Brush Prairie) says:

    There’s a very realistic chance that the MS tornado was strong EF-4 or EF-5. And it appears to have tracked at least 100 miles, with the supercell still producing at this moment. And the day is only getting started.

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Yeah I agree with that, but I have hopes that all of the showers/storms ahead of the cold front main have provided enough rain cooled air to reduce instability into Alabama… If not yeah a few more towns could be hammered.

      As far as our weather….
      Just had very brief pea sized hail here.

  30. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Wow 😮

    Kris Hair storm chaser is driving through Yazoo City.
    Incredible damage

  31. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Reports of hail in Hillsboro/Aloha… hmmmmm

    As of 11 AM

    Upper Air Analysis
    850mb: -2c to -3c
    500mb: -20c

    Thermodynamic Fields show no instability and lapse rates less than 6C/km, so not very steep. I guess the sun breaks were just enough to allow some of these showers to produce hail.

  32. Battle Ground Brian says:

    Yazoo City, MS is ground zero with this outbreak.
    3/4 mile wide path of destruction based on preliminary reports.

  33. J in N Hazel Dell, WA says:

    12 SQUARE yards one inch deep or 12 cubic yards??

  34. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    As for our weather. MUCH SAFER!

    Just some light/moderate showers.

  35. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Here’s another link

    Looks very bad people.

  36. Not much going on here in our area but there is another large outbreak of severe weather in the deep south…..

    49.7° 0.03″ rain

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Yes there sure is. Did you see the size of the Severe ‘High Risk’ zone? Immense

      Currently 2 PDS(Particularly Dangerous Situation)Tornado Watches in place. Very large, long track tornadoes possible.

      Right now Yazoo City, Mississippi is in a grave situation. A huge wedge tornado is bearing down on town. This could be something we all hear about on the news very soon. The couplet on this thing is gigantic.

      Live stream from this area

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Latest image off SRV mode

      Dead lord wow…

    • W7ENK says:

      Oh, that’s not good… 😯

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Chasers are nearing Yazoo City. We will be seeing damage soon and it may be hard to watch. They are likely on a search mission now to help the folks.

    • W7ENK says:

      The server is so jammed, it won’t even let me connect if I wanted to watch. I have a feeling I’ll get to see it on the news tonight. 😦

      Thoughts and prayers for all those people.

      As for me, it’s time to go move some strawberries…

    • Yeah, the server is taking a lot of hits…

      These things are awesome, but they can be so deadly…

    • Andrew Johnson says:

      Well the severe weather totally bypassed me. Just had a couple hours of moderate/heavy rain yesterday morning with a few flashes of lightning, rest of the day was sunny and nice. This is my 3rd spring in Oklahoma and it has thus far been by far the most benign in terms of storms.

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Yeah Andrew the cold front blasted eastward too early. Next week I’m thinking will be better chances.

    • Sean Mott (Lebanon, IN) says:

      Getting some sun breaks here currently. DP IMBY is currently at 63 and temp of 73.. Currently in the slight risk area currently, with the moderate risk area just to my south.

      Should be an interesting day and evening..

  37. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Solid sunshine has developed, it looks like the last few showers are to the west of me.

  38. Jim in N. Tabor says:

    Any chance for any boomer activity today ?

  39. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Mark, thanks for the update…. I can’t think of anything more enjoyable on a warm, sunny Sunday afternoon than playing with Rhinocerous poop.

    Hopefully this cold trough will bring with it cold core convection chances.

  40. W7ENK says:

    Repost from last topic…


    Hey, I’m serious! The strawberries are moving, the corn’s going in the ground, the raspberries are getting strung up and the tomatoes are getting planted THIS WEEKEND! The avocado has been outside for over a week now, and she’s not coming back in until October at this point, and that’s assuming I can figure out how to prune it properly to keep her under 7’6″ tall, so the last thing I need now is 30 degree temps to eff everything all up! 😡

    This cold crap needs to be over with… I’m more than a month behind on my veggies, and at this point I seriously doubt my corn will be “knee high by the 4th of July”. I’m going to have to work really hard to reach that goal, I’m afraid. They should already be 6-8 inches tall! Best I can do is over-nitrogenate and cover it all with dark mulch to keep it warm, so that’s exactly what I’m going to do.

    I don’t mean to rant, and I’m not pointing fingers, but this is really frustrating, I tell ya! I like the concept of self sufficiency, and sharing/exchanging home-grown produce with friends and neighbors is a lot of fun. I’d rather not fail at this endeavor this year…

    As I see it, Mother Nature needs to get over herself and mellow out! We know she’s in control, just stop screwing with my garden!!! 😆

    Addition: Mark, I’m jealous of your zoo poo… Yeah, I never thought I’d use those words in that order before. 🙂 Mushroom compost, dark mulch and a baggie of Ammonium Sulfate (nitrogen booster) will hopefully be my ticket to success this year! That is assuming the weather starts cooperating with my gardening ambitions… Grrrr!!!

    • W7ENK says:


      I forgot to tag this to my e-mail again… 😳

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      You need to get a greenhouse. I know I can’t plant corn and the rest of the warm-weather veggies until around Memorial Day normally. Even in Portland April seems early to me.

    • W7ENK says:

      Unfortunately, a greenhouse doesn’t fit in the budget or the footprint. I have family in Minnesota with 680 acres of corn, cows and alfalfa – I’ve been told that corn should go in immediately after the last frost, but also if it isn’t in by the end of March, it may be too late, so I don’t know??? 3/20 has been my target date for the last 3 years, and that seems to work out well. This year has been very difficult to judge, but I digress.

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      I’ve always had trouble especially with corn if planted too early. I’m with Mark on the timing.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      The family in Minnesota told you to plant after the last frost, but no later than the end of March? Seems odd coming from Minnesotans, considering their last frost is almost always well after the end of March. Even ours averages sometime in April for most suburbs, and even early May for some of the far-flung outlying areas.

    • W7ENK says:

      No, no… I guess I didn’t type that very well.

      Family in Minnesota told me after the first frost, but I’ve also heard (Not from MN family — that was the part that got left out, sorry) that you want to start corn before the beginning of April. I’ve not had much trouble with end of March before, except last year because my soil had no Nitrogen in it anymore, so the corns were small and weak. Fixing that this year. Maybe I’ll wait another couple weeks on the corn then?

      I’m just eager because it seems SO late, and I actually have a weekend to myself for once! 🙂 I don’t see another one of those on the horizon… at all, really.

  41. Mr Data says:

    It rained lightly about 8pm for about an hour.

  42. Mr Data says:

    Glad your dog isn’t picky about the kind of poo he eats.

    I can’t imagine what would happen if the doggy felt his poo tasted like poo. 😛

    *holds out weather related card*

    50.0F and cloudy.

  43. wwm says:

    wow Mark, zoo poo? I love the fact your dog has such rich tastes in food. pretty funny stuff. We were going to get a big load of mushroom compost (you should give that a try for your garden!) for ours this year, I wonder if our lab will be feasting on that?

  44. Gregg-Troutdale says:

    Thanks for the update Mark. The rains will be good for my garden.

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