Cold Mornings

That was a chilly morning! Take a look at the low temps. I know a bunch of you had lower 20s this morning; of course the urban areas are generally warmer on calm and clear nights, so we only dropped to 27 here in Portland. Even that was a record for the day AND the coldest temp at PDX in 8 weeks (actually the coldest since the morning of the, uh, uh, little snow “event”). Let’s move on before that wound is ripped wide open again. I just took my “snow” car in to have the studs taken off. Yes, I know living at 1,000′ in the west end of the Gorge that I could see some snow again; in that case the 4 wheel drive will do just fine in a few inches of the white stuff. But the possibility of a widespread snow/ice event is over now that nothing is showing up through the first week of March.

I did spend part of the weekend over in Cove at a family function. That’s the eastern edge of the Grande Ronde Valley, right up against the Wallowa Mountains. That would be a great place to retire with good winter snowfall, lots of summer sunshine, and great summer thunderstorms. But it felt like I jumped back 2 months into December. High temps up around 40 and lows in the upper teens. A very brisk bike ride at about 35 degrees, but a beautiful place.

Back here westside we have moisture for rainfall finally moving in tomorrow afternoon. That’s after 7 days of dry weather. There will be some nice evaporational cooling tomorrow, very similar to what we saw in late December, but 5-10 degrees warmer. We are going for a high of 48 (just changed it to 46 with earlier arrival of rainfall), but I could easily see a high around 45, then a drop to about 40 when the precipitation begins. Either way we’ll see a gray, cool, and eventually wet day on Tuesday. A big reminder that we are still technically in winter. Plus, snow levels may drop to around 3,000′ at first tomorrow afternoon. We haven’t seen that much since December.

The big picture looks wetter for the next 7-10 days, but a still a tendency for ridging over or northeast of us. That still spells relatively weak weather systems and good breaks in the rainfall. The system due in here Thursday looks a bit warmer; probably rain in the passes.

There will be a break either Saturday or Sunday, so the weekend might not be so bad…we’ll see.

Stay warm tonight and tomorrow!

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

62 Responses to Cold Mornings

  1. Bart Lawrence says:

    You need to work on your Weather forcast, Its been raining all morning long here in Warrenton. You stated the rain wouldn,t come till this evening on the coast. I don’t want to watch another station for the weather, But if you can’t get it right I will. K2 news got it right why can’t you!!!!

  2. Adam in SE says:

    1.5″ of rain in the low-tech backyard rain gauge this morning… and another 0.3″ today!

  3. Mr Data says:

    Thank you for responding about Andrew and I am (a bit) sad he no longer lives here but I am back to square one where I am all alone weather geek wise here.

    It’s not like I have ever had weather geeks before anyways so it’s not huge lose. 🙂

    “My people come and go so quickly” Dorthey from Wizard of Oz:

    Man there was this HUGE downpour and I had to put the windshield wipers next to the highest settings and even then it was hard to see.

    The light had a strange whitish color to it and was very eerie

  4. Mr Data says:

    Mark you didn’t need to delete my post! 😮 😮 😮

    I just said for Dabears to obey rule number 3 and stop trying to make me mad which he is doing a good job of.

  5. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Rather impressive radar returns, especially up by Battle Ground and Brush Prairie.

    Zoomed radar


    It’s been a long time since we’ve seen anything like this.

  6. k5mitch says:

    Geeez I had better post somthing. No posts sice 2:00 a.m.

    60.4 F
    clouds and sun
    SE wind @ 7.6

  7. Mr Data says:

    46.4F and rising steady.

    Good night. (dims down the lights and shuts off the weather equipment not being used)

  8. Mr Data says:

    Getting a little breezy. The neighbors christmas lights are being obstructed by the branches of the trees.

    The neighbor leaves them on because we live on a lonely stretch and it’s cheery. 🙂

    It’s like a totally different world where we live.

  9. Mr Data says:

    No wonder my Andrew Johnson question didn’t get answered this time. 😮

    Anybody know how often Andrew Johnson stays in Silverton?

    I postedo n the power alert section which I think………………I am not sure what it’s for actually. 😕

    • Aleta-West Gresham says:

      Other then to maybe occasionally visit family i doubt he stays there very much since he lives in Oklahoma.

  10. Chilly 42.3F…raining….0.27″ so far

  11. muxpux says:

    its rained most of the day here in longview, but its been rather light, in fact i dont think its raining at all right now, just wet out. looks like most of the moisture is staying south of us.

  12. Snow-Zone/Monmouth-Elv200' says:

    Its been raining all day long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If only this was all snow!! I hope this spring gives us some very scary weather, we have been lulled to sleep during this winter season so boring!! 42.6F and rain coming down at a pretty good clip now.

  13. timmy - scappoose says:

    18z gfs continues the trend we have had the past 48 hours or so of -3 to -6c 850 MB temps with sub 530 heights around march 3rd. this would probably mean snow levels 1000+ with possible t-storms and hail

    • Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

      If we could only get into the -7 to -10 range that would pull it down to the valley floor.

      I’m crossing my fingers for some surprise birthday snow! 🙂

    • timmy - scappoose says:

      yeah, well its also in march, not gonna get my hopes up… but at least i may be able to drive to the hills around scappoose and see some snow.

  14. Mr Data says:

    Hey Timmy did you ever read my story about how TWC saved us from being flooded in Quincy CA?

    Did you? huh huh? (taps Timmy on his shoulder) 😉

  15. dabears (Hillsboro-Tanasbourne) says:

    Both the 06z and 12z GFS are still showing a little cold spell around the beginning of March. It would be very borderline at best, but there is plenty of moisture to go around. I’m not counting on anything, but it’s good to at least see it there.

  16. Battle Ground Brian says:

    23.3″ of snow at the NWS office in Reno this past weekend. This is the largest snowfall in over 5 years there.

    See report here:

  17. Mr Data says:

    37F for this am low. (turns off the lights)

  18. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Cloudy and drizzle has begun. 44.1 with a DP of 27. As far as any hopes of mixed precip? I highly doubt it. KPTV Tower temps are all WELL above freezing. I even see that Wanderer’s Peak which sits at 4,350′ is a balmy 36F, so I assume the snow level is above 4,000+.

  19. Tyler in Hazel Dell says:

    What a pretty sunrise again this morning!

    • Punxsutawney (aka HIO Phil at work by Sunset High) ~280' says:


      Nice shadow from Mt. Hood(?) on the clouds. I hope you took pictures.

  20. k5mitch says:

    40.2 F
    And what the H*LL am I doing up @ 3:30 a.m.

  21. Mr Data says:

    How often does Andrew Johnsel live here in Silverton?

    I understand Angels of God if I am unworthy of the bloggers answering me and you try to stop them.

  22. yevpolo1990 says:

    IT IS COLD, or is it just me?

  23. Andrew Johnson says:

    Nice! PDX sets a cold season record low!

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Fourth one this winter!

    • Karl Bonner says:

      And had there not been any retrograde polar air sneaking in from the northeast, the past few days would probably have seen near-record HIGH temps (62-65) instead! And despite a record low, PDX still made it up to 55 this afternoon.

      Am I alone in thinking that this dry spell felt more like fall than like spring due to the big diurnal swings?

    • Agreed Karl – going out for walks with the dog the last few nights, I kept telling my sig other, “What a beautiful Fall night!”

    • PDX Weather Nut says:

      Too many blossoms that started in January due to the abnormally warm weather for it to really feel like fall to me…

  24. Jesse-Orchards says:

    Mark, the longer range models have actually been hinting at some colder weather and lower snow levels the first week of March.

    • boydo3 N Albany says:

      I’m not seeing it. The eight ball says “continued weather with same old stuff followed by more of the same”.

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      I know what you’re seeing, but that’s 8-10 days away. If they show it for 3 days in a row I’ll be interested. It is a bit pathetic that we’ll get excited over a 2-3,000′ snow level isn’t it? Remember two winters ago when hardly any system had a snow level HIGHER than 4,000′?

    • boydo3 N Albany says:

      Yeah, I wonder what the Olympics would have been like. Probably complaining because of too much snow!

    • Karl Bonner says:

      I’ll believe it when I see it on the 7 day charts.

      As much as many of us are begging for a last shot at winter weather, I’d hate to see any pattern cold enough to put the early spring flowers and leaf buds back to sleep. Now that we’re on a roll with the earliest phenology in more than a decade, let’s not spoil it with a week or two of cold weather in March!

      Fortunately, with the exception of tomorrow, the trend for the next week looks to be slightly warmer than average – not unseasonable, but warm enough that our gardens probably won’t slip into a coma.

    • Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

      Wasn’t that the winter where it seemed like every snow event nailed the hill tops but never managed to penetrate the magical 300′ barrier that most of us live under?

      I HATED that winter. Usually whenever you see a forecast for snow levels @ 500′ your pretty safe in assuming the valley floor will indeed see snow. But they managed to forecast and nail snow levels as low as 250′ that year. I was dying.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Not sure what you’re looking at, Karl. The next 7-10 days look normal to slightly below.

      It will do the flowers and buds good to wait until a more reasonable time to go full-bore.

      Personally I’m hoping for a nice cold March, with lots of wet snow showers.

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      Cold core convection season await.

    • PDX Weather Nut says:

      Frankly I’d love to see some cold weather and mountain snow FINALLY.

  25. Farmer Steve says:

    Rod Hill said on his web site that we could see some cold weather next week. Something we haven’t seen since December. We’ll see……

  26. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Mark, thanks for the update.

    Cove is a nice place. I’ve once stayed there with Family friends for an entire Summer. We did a lot of bike riding from Cove to LaGrande to Union. It definitely has absolutely stunning scenery. Oh even hiked Mt. Fanny (You know Mt. Fanny)

  27. PDX Weather Nut says:

    It was cold this morning but quite warm here this afternoon, near the record high of 64 set in 2002.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:


      PDX had a high of 55 today.

      I would assume you were posting from somewhere else (California?) regarding that high of 64, except that your name is PDX Weather Nut.

    • W7ENK says:

      Well, after a low of 25.0 here in Milwaukie last night, we hit 62.1 for a high. My friend’s truck said 64 in Clackamas this afternoon, too.

      I’d believe it, it was warm in the sun today!

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      I think your temp sensor is getting too much radiation (heat). All official observations in the Metro area were 53-58 today. That includes north and south of you. Temps have to be taken in the shade, with nothing else around. Car thermometers are notoriously unreliable. Mine generally reads 3-7 degrees too high…even warmer when sitting still on a hot summer day.

    • W7ENK says:

      I agree, Mark, car thermometers always seem to run a few degrees on the warm side.

      My station at home is an Oregon Scientific WMR-100. It’s out in the back corner of my yard on the top of a ~12 foot pole away from the house and trees – out in as wide open of a space as I can get it. It is exposed to the sun, but I thought it was supposed to be okay for that… I’ll try moving it, but anywhere else, I worry it won’t be exposed to the wind properly. 😦

      Thanks! I’d like to get as accurate of temp readings as possible.

    • Reached 55.6° here….

      Currently 40.1F with a “slight” easterly wind component..

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