A Windy Day

I’m disappointed that I missed the fun today up at Crown Point.  Steve Pierce tells me 10-15 weather freaks showed up at Vista House to experience the wind.  So who feels like the cat licked your face for two hours? The guy in the picture is Rian Muleback…not a ninja.

There was some debate earlier on the blog about the wind speed up there.  Peak gusts were recorded on several anemometers in the 65-89 mph range.  Of course I was initially doubtful for two reasons.  1.  Peak gusts at all the “usual” locations (Skamania, Corbett, Rooster Rock, Troutdale) were all in the 40-50 mph range, hardly a big east wind day, and 2. The gradient never got past about 9 millibars PDX-DLS.  Those big days are always accompanied by 11-14 millibars gradient.

Now that relatively weak gradient, by wintertime Gorge standards, would account for the relatively low peak wind gusts at the usual sites.  That leads me to believe that several of your anemometers are crap OR the wind must funnel up and over the ridge, plus around the Vista House far more than any of us would think it would.  I believe the 2nd is more likely.  I see the quality Maximum wind instrument was involved.  Those things are great and have a good reputation, just a bit expensive.  So this makes me wonder if 100 mph gusts are a regular visitor when other spots are in the 70 mph range.  I have read that gusts over 130 mph were recorded when there was a weather station in the restaurant just above in the 1930s.  I’m going to have to pull out my old Maximum anemometer, buy some new wind cups, and get down there one of these days to check it out myself.  I think my son found the box when he was about two years old and broke the cups somehow.

Today was also more of a “downsloping” wind day.  Note the peak gusts at PDX and spots in the West Hills were about the same as the locations in the west end of the Gorge.  The wind might increase a bit in the Gorge tonight, and that reminds me…I have some serious surgery to do on the overnight forecast graphics.  Wind everywhere with some cloud cover means a mild night ahead.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

126 Responses to A Windy Day

  1. Jory (Sandy) says:

    So Mark, What did you think of the Crown Point soire today? Believe those numbers? 🙂
    Also, are you suspecting Corbett’s windspeed numbers? Aren’t they coming from the sensor YOU installed?? 🙂 Lol

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      Yes, it was definitely low tonight. As I drove home I thought it was gusting in the 60-70 mph range (from past experience). Instead it said during a twenty minute period it didn’t even gust above 41???

  2. Mr Data aka Tetra says:

    I almost forget what I cane in here to tell you! 😮

    My wind has been from the west which is an odd direction for Silverton SO i Am going to assume it’s because there is low pressure just to the north/northwest of me.

  3. Mr Data aka Tetra says:

    And also I don’t argue with you anymore because of my chaos curse which causes people like you guys 2 not be aware of small hit n miss problems when I am aware of them or vica a versa.

    The only times I have ever been defeaned on here from bullies is when I wasn’t aware I was being attacked when I first came on here which makes me really doubt Jesus and his goonies ahem I mean Archangels.

    • Annie in Vancouver ~330 ft. says:

      That’s enough Tetra… Keep it WEATHER talk and WEATHER related – ONLY.

      Please & thank you.

    • ya seriously dude just weather. but i know u could never do just weather. you always got to post u problems which u have a lot of always on here. how bout u go tell ur problems to ur parents.

    • pappoose in scappoose says:

      I enjoyed the humor of your posts for awhile, but I am now wasting too much of my time with your incessent complaints of trolls, goonies, non weather related stuff. Please stay real/weather.

  4. Mr Data aka Tetra says:

    The way the weather is now you wouldn’t believe for a second we had such a beautiful/gorgeous sunrise with lots of orange to it. 😮

    It’s yuck-o-rama outside now with my yucky weather station reporting a yucky 44.2F. http://www.smileyhut.com/naughty/bleh.gif

    That post earlier was just me having a battle/argument with myself. 😛

    I actually said/mentioned the bullies are more of hit n run posters but I guess it didn’t come clear enough or something……………….:-?

    You know like hit-n-run drivers which can cause a lot of damage in a short amount of time but they run/hide so they won’t get caught by the police/law eonforcement because they are too stupid/evil to pay the debt for their crimes/lawbreaking?

  5. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Surface gradients
    As of 2 PM|Current|Hourly Change
    [Gorge]
    PDX-DLS: -10.5mb | 0.1mb Decrease
    TTD-DLS: -10.1mb | 0.3mb Increase

  6. Mr Data says:

    43.7F here and mostly cloudy after a low of 34F with a light frost on the rooftops of the neighbors and a B-E-A-utiful sunrise like you’d never see here in Oregon.

    Conscious 1: Don’t let Mark spoil your day by his moderating you’re comments as he is simply mislead by the once in a while bullies on here and the anti criticism cliched groups.

    Conscious 2: Give it to them! Give them all the flames in the world and most of all Give mark all the flames from the bottom of your hea\t………………….heart.

  7. Mr Data says:

    So is John Coleman going to fire himself since he is against the global warming ‘religion’ as it is now……….oh wait I forgot they made it politically correct and it’s called ‘Climate Change’ now but mankind are still the blame for all the cold hapening back east.

    Oh no there goes that suicide monster risinng from the depths of it’s grave. http://www.smileyhut.com/naughty/axe.gif

    *insert strange Monster growls here* Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Think happy thoughts Data…………………………………….

  8. Big Nel says:

    I made it back to Crown Point at 10:00am. Winds much stronger, couldn’t get out of car. Raz bus pulled up but only 5 kids got out, one lost her scarf and another kid chased it up the road. It is blowing! I think I may go back. It’s something to experience.

  9. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Surface gradients
    As of 1 PM|Current|Hourly Change
    [Gorge]
    PDX-DLS: -10.6mb | 1.1mb Decrease
    TTD-DLS: -9.8mb | 1.4mb Decrease
    I hope this was just a minor decrease…

  10. Annie in Vancouver ~330 ft. says:

    The wind died off here last night, but have picked back up in the last couple hours. Not as strong as yesterday so far, but it’s roaring through the trees pretty good! Temp is 40.4 and dp is 31.

    Any more thoughts on ZR for tonight/tomorrow AM?

  11. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    ALERT

    SP JUST RECORDED A GUST OF 100.9 MPH.

    *See pic

    BAM! 🙂

  12. Aleta-West Gresham says:

    I’ve got to wonder what the Australian students that came in last night to Reynolds High are thinking today!(We’re hosting one for a week and a half) They are touring the George today.

  13. MasterNate says:

    The video is from John Coleman, founder of the the “Weather channel”

    • Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

      No worries… I agree it’s a bunch of crap. I do of course though believe we don’t help the Earth with all of the industrial pollution, oil spills, trash, but that’s a different topic…

    • MasterNate says:

      I agree, we dont help the earth out much when it comes to things like that. Hopefully that will change with new technology and time.

  14. MasterNate says:

    Not to steal your thunder Rob or try to change the subject but a friend just sent me this link to a video from someone at the weather channel on how Global warming is a big fat lie! Take a look, pretty good.

    http://www.kusi.com/home/78477082.html?video=pop&t=a

  15. stevied (North Portland) says:

    Man, Florida is going to be chilly in a few days!

  16. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Surface gradients
    As of 12 PM|Current|Hourly Change
    [Gorge]
    PDX-DLS: -11.7mb | 0.5mb Increase
    TTD-DLS: -11.2mb | 0.3mb Increase

    Hmmm maybe I will be correct in the further strengthening of gradients. It all depends on when/how quickly the strong ridge over the Columbia Basin/eastern Washington weakens.

  17. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Winds may increase further

    IR Sat pic
    http://www.atmos.washington.edu/cgi-bin/latest.cgi?fronts-ir
    Very strong and cold 1046mb high pressure to our northeast and warm front off to our southwest. The difference between the two could I feel tighten the gradient up another 2-3mb. We’ll see….

  18. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    The wind is really ramping up. Definitely wind advisory levels locations east of I-205 into Gresham and Troutdale.

    • PaulO says:

      Wish I was off work and able to get to Vista House. I have been there a few times in the past in similiar conditions and it is awesome. One must be very careful though as the gusts make it extremely difficult to even stand in one place leaning into the wind and the potential to be injured is certainly present. Be careful if you take the kids. We honestly did have one about 9 or ten blowing off the steps and across the parking lot a couple of years back. Both us us were a bit bruised when I had to dive on him to catch him.

  19. azzurri says:

    Bit chilly but what a beautiful sunrise this morning. It’d be nice to get some snow and all but you cant complain about this!

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