The Disappearing Post

I just spent a bunch of time putting together a post and then it all disappeared, so now I’m cranky and headed home instead.  Looks chilly with some real Fall weather next Tuesday/Wednesday, otherwise warm and sunny Friday-Monday.   Marine layer might be surprisingly deep tomorrow, but I’ll stick with the 76 forecast high…could easily be 72 instead!

Chief Meteorologist – Mark Nelsen

60 Responses to The Disappearing Post

  1. Tetra says:

    I meant tidbits.

    Tidbits sounds like some sort of blog room finger food. 😆

  2. Tetra says:

    Exactly gloriousnumber1. It all has to do with my question so please read it carefully for my tibest since so far it was misinterped.

    64F on my Oregon Craptific weather station.

  3. gloriousnumber1 says:

    Does anyone else notice how the weekend is looking cooler and cooler, and monday is looking more and more cloudy?

  4. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Does anyone think we could possibly see some interesting cold cored convection like January 1996 this winter? Please say yes.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      well It doesn’t have to be a line of strong-severe storms taking up the entire coast – moving towards PDX with 70 mph winds at 4:30 in the morning… Although it would be sweet if that re-occurred.

    • Tetra says:

      I want to know since the temperatue drops 4F every 1,000ft if that means we will get cold cored convection with this upcoming cold snap here.

  5. …anyone else having a problem with their gravitar not showing up??????????….

  6. Tetra says:

    If you beg to differ please explain your scientific reasons rather then just gut feelings based on climateology. Thanks. 😉

  7. Tetra says:

    no NO NO! *slaps self on forehead* What I asked was if GC is having highs below freezing how cold will it be down here?

    For every 1k the temp drops 4F so I imagine highs in the mid 50s or so down here in the valleys. not including convective cold core showers

  8. Looks like I will be the last one to get the marine layer to burn off this afternoon. Still overcast here, I can see clearing not too far west of town. Currently 57.8°, I take it Mark didn’t think we would get this strong of marine push…..

  9. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Sun is just now coming out here, but the temp is only 62.9F. It doesn’t look like we will make it to 80F today.

  10. Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

    Sunspots return to the sun in the order of 2:

  11. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    KPTV has a 63F for Tuesday, TWC has a 55F for Tuesday… I’ll stick with KPTV! 🙂

    46.9 degrees in Hillsboro, with mist currently… Haven’t seen any bugs in my apartment lately, I like it. Although the heat did attract some large beetles inside, but those aren’t bugs to me, they are nice.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      And yeah I did mess up on the title of my bar graph. Consecutive means “without stop”, I wasn’t thinking 🙂

    • Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

      I had a beetle attempt to join me in the shower this morning. Poor bugger doesn’t swim very well.

  12. Cherie in Vernonia says:

    How long til it will be dark at 7PM. Anyone know??


  13. Tetra says:

    If Goverment Camp has highs below 32 the earliest on record what is the translation for down here?

    • Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

      Pretty much just that… Early cold temps for GC. I don’t think it really correlates much to the potential for the season. As we’ve seen in recent years we’ve had blistering hot starts and very cold starts to Spring and had a average to mild summer. We’ve also had very cold starts to winter and had a relatively mild winter overall. Look to the ocean models for clues as to what will happen this winter. 🙂

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      The last couple winters haven’t been mild.

      Last winter was the coldest in 16 years, and the snowiest in 40.

      2006-07 and 2007-08 were also below average for the NW as a whole.

  14. PaulB/Eugene says:

    Perhaps a touch of frost on the zucchini

    Looking to next week…highs at Govy will probably be in low 40s…expect an inch or two at Timberline Lodge….don’t think it will be sticking snow at Government Camp.

    As the Seattle forecast office staff like to say….SUMMER IS OVER

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Paul, the models would easily support snow at Government Camp next week, and highs in the 30s. Thicknesses in the mid-upper 530s and 850s at or below 0c would do the trick.

      Also looks good for low 100s in the Willamette Valley!!

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      No more hexing 100’s… lol

      Yeah its about time to switch seasons I suppose, snow at Government Camp sounds great. I’ll be monitoring those skycams in the mean time.

  15. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    00z GFS shows no change from previous runs… Chilly temps on their way next week. Won’t that be nice? 🙂

    Good night.

  16. gloriousnumber1 says:

    I think it might finally be time to take the Air Conditioner out of the window, thoughts everyone?

    • Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

      I will be doing just that during the day Saturday. To that end I’ll be going into pre-winter mode to get the house ready while the weather isn’t brutal!

  17. Josh "The Snowman" From Everett, WA says:

    Hey Mark,

    Mat and I will be at the winter weather meeting this year. How about going out for a couple drinks afterwards buddy!!

  18. Cherie in Vernonia says:

    If anyone here is on Facebook & cares to come over ….search GROUPS for Weather Blog Group

    Hope to see you there :0)

  19. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I created a bar graph of 90+ degree days since 2000. PDX had 24 days this year. And surprisingly 22 days in 2003, one would think it was 2004 or 2006. Maybe not. On Wunderground history, there was missing data in 2000, so thats why it only has 5 days that year.

    Well, here it is.

    I put one of my shelf/wall cloud pics from June 4th in the background, I thought it would fit.

  20. Tetra says:

    Looks like I killed the blog today. 😮

  21. Joe Francona (Silverton) says:

    Recent model runs have been pretty exciting to see. Perhaps some unseasonably cool weather and decent precipitation. That would be nice to see. And Mark, I understand your frustration, I accidentally erased a very long email before I sent it the other day.

  22. Tetra says:

    70F at the Salem airport. 68F on my weather station.

  23. Tetra says:

    Mostly sunny with north winds. It always amazes me how Hillsboro is so much colder then anywhere else in the valley. 😮 😮

  24. Overcast 62.5F here currently….

  25. Tetra says:


    I personally don’t agree with Steve’s theroy of years behaving like other years simply because we are in a new ball field due to the stupid sunspot problems and ocean indexes like the SOI being screwed up

    Glad I am not going to be there to hear the ranting. 😉

  26. Steve Pierce (Vancouver, WA.) says:

    Oregon AMS “What Will The Winter Be Like” Annual Weather Meeting!

    Will we see another mega-snow winter for Portland this year or will El Nino spoil the fun? The 17th annual event is locked in and ready to go. There were 200 people there last year and we will likely see as many (or more) again this year! Don’t miss it! For complete details, including a driving directions, see link below, or text version here!

    Hope to see you all there!

    Steve Pierce
    Oregon AMS

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    17th Annual Oregon AMS “What Will The Winter Be Like” Weather Meeting

    When: Saturday, October 17th, 2009, 10 am – 12 noon (up to 12:30 pm)
    Where: OMSI Auditorium, 1945 SE Water Ave., Portland, Oregon
    Cost: Free and open to the public

    Download this same information in the form of a PDF:

    There will be a self-ordered lunch / social event immediately after the meeting in the OMSI Cafe.


    Opening Remarks: Jim Todd, Oregon Museum of Science and Industry
    Review of Winter 2008-09: Mark Nelsen, KPTV Meteorologist
    Historical Data and Snowfall Potential: Steve Pierce, AMS Councilor

    WINTER 2009/2010 FORECASTS:

    Tyree Wilde, NOAA-National Weather Service WC Meteorologist, Portland
    George Taylor, Applied Climate Services Climatologist, LLC, Corvallis, Oregon
    Pete Parsons, Oregon Department of Agriculture Meteorologist, Salem, Oregon
    Kyle Dittmer, Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission Hydrologist-Meteorologist

    AMS Website: http://www.ametsoc.o…egon/index.html

  27. Anthony Bertolo - Gresham (500') says:

    -2C 850mb Temps coming up. Could be a record at Govt. Camp.

  28. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Why is it always nearly 10 degrees cooler in Hillsboro? Its like 55 degrees a few miles from my location…. Kinda bothers me 🙂

  29. k5mitch says:

    57.2F and nice on-shore flow-oh it feels so good.

  30. Karl Bonner says:

    I noticed that as of 2am today (Thu), the east end of the Gorge is now the place that is staying warm overnight due to the west wind!

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  32. Tetra says:

    😮 *insert twilight zone theme here*

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