AMS Broadcasters Conference

ams_logoI spent most of today at the 37th Annual AMS Broadcasters Conference with other TV weather people from around the country.  Generally there is one of these conferences each year and usually they are held in late June.  This one will continue through Thursday.  This is also the first year that the conference has come to Portland.  About 6 years ago Seattle hosted the conference, but usually it’s much farther away.  That’s for good reason;  the vast majority of TV stations are east of the Rockies.  Television markets to the east are generally smaller so there are more of them.  The most obvious thing today was the light attendance.  Less than 100 meteorologists when the usual total is around 200-300!  The economy is mainly to blame.  TV companies are making cutbacks just like others.

I always get a bit fired up after several days of sessions because we get to learn about all sorts of new things at these conferences.  For example, today we learned that the new GOES-R satellite (not coming for a few more years) will have an optical lightning detector.  So 24 hours a day over oceans and land all lightning strikes will be detectable, including cloud to cloud.  That should be fun to see.  Gene Norman from Houston talked about Ike’s arrival and the ensuing mess down there last September.   I can’t imaging being without power down there for two weeks during the summer heat/humidity!

This Portland conference was fun today since quite a few local TV (and ex-TV) folks showed up.  Matt Zaffino, Bruce Sussman, and I gave the opening “Welcome to Portland” presentations about our local climate.  Rod Hill, Dave Salesky, Rhonda Shelby, Drew Jackson, Stephanie Kralevich, Dave Sweeney & Stephanie Ortmann were there as well.   Imagine getting a big hug from Salesky and Shelby in the same day!   Good times just keep on rolling, I almost had tears in my eyes…okay, to be serious I didn’t.  But it REALLY is nice that just about all the weather people in the Portland Television Market get along so well when we see each other.  It’s a friendly group of people.

These sessions are not open to the general public, but the LOCAL Oregon Chapter of the AMS has a meeting on Tuesday evening in the same location.  I can’t make it because I’ll be working, but I do recommend trying to get there if you can.  Details are here:

Mark Nelsen

107 Responses to AMS Broadcasters Conference

  1. Aloha Rainshadow says:

    Timmy, are you having a conversation with yourself?

  2. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Too bad I can’t go to the meeting. Sounds fun

  3. Aloha Rainshadow says:

    Mark, missed you at meeting tonight, the Aurora presentation was pretty cool! Good seeing TV, Mback, Steve P, and Brian M there!
    Mets showed up…Bruce Sussman, Pete Parsons like always a class act, even saw the old NWCN weather guy who left in 05 (can’t remember the name) Steve P will have to remind me. Tim Joyce from 6 showed up for a bit!
    Fun times! Thanks to the AMS for hosting the food and drinks, can’t wait for the picnic this summer!

  4. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Hm… 82 on Saturday, let’s hope so!

  5. Brew Master Steve says:

    The “post AMS meeting” after hours party is in full swing downtown at Henry’s Pub on the back deck. Several local and national mets are here sucking down many cold libations.

    You are mising out! 🙂 But I will make sure and have one for all who are not present.


  6. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    oops double post, sorry

  7. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I’ll keep my eye on the sky then, but probably no more downed trees in 2023… lol

  8. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I was talking about whats possible over this next season. Not the next 7 days i do mind you.

  9. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I am talking about over the next season, there is a chance. Not the next 7 days i do mind you.

  10. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Timmy, I think we’ll see several more severe t-storm warnings along the Cascades and some even west of the Cascades. Usually this time of year we need a fairly strong vort/shortwave to rotate north out of California, but the jet support is really weak generally. If we can establish a good monsoonal flow we can get storms ongoing through the overnight hours especially along the Cascades and eastward.

    • Anything is possible…We’ve already had a severe t-storm watch (First one ever in the metro area I believe), several severe t-storm warnings, even a tornado warning, so yes, we could see many more.

      Currently 66.0F after a high of 76F

  11. Dan Zeit says:

    Saw the latest long range charts. It looks like maybe some temps up around 90 or so just after July 4th,but not until then. However after this little batch of rain on Wednesday it looks pleasently warm an dry for the next several days. As to why McMinnville and Eugene get colder than PDX at night,a great deal has to do with locations. Pdx is is the middle of a large urban heat island. Mac is only around 35,000. Eugene is larger,but Mahlon Sweet airport is out in the far edge of town well away from most of the effects from their smaller urban heat island.

  12. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    The last thunderstorm to produce significant winds at the metro was March of 1995 (discounting these two recent storms). Only one of them in 14 years. And we now had 2 of them in a one month period this year so far. the May 2nd + June 4th storms also both took the shape of a bow echo. And we still talking about the possibilities of even more of these types of thunderstorms. Now that is soemthing that really made me jump off my chair. Rob, what are your thoughts on this?

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Last one, I promise.

      You said “And we still are talking about the possibilities of even more of these types of thunderstorms.”

      There is nothing in the forecast indicating we will be entering any type of period conducive to severe thunderstorms in the next 7-10 days. You really should be careful posting that kind of stuff when it isn’t the case, just like the fake thunderstorm warning you typed up last week. Entertaining, yes, but stuff of that nature has a high potential to mislead some blog visitors.

      Not trying to pick on you. Misinformation is a big pet peeve of mine though, if you can’t tell. :p

  13. Jesse-Orchards says:

    I really like snow, so I predict it will be a really snowy winter this year, with lots and lots of perfect setups for snow.

    Just my 6th sense.

  14. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I always had a sixth sense that 2009 would be “The Most Convective Year”, and so far its turning out to be that way. My senses are saying that its going to continue. Thus hotter weather.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Not to continue busting chops, but this year really hasn’t been very active so far compared to some in the past. We haven’t even seen any widespread lightning over the metro area.

      The early June and early May events were ok, but based on what we’ve gotten up to this point, I certainly wouldn’t put 2009 in the running for “The Most Convective Year” just yet.

    • Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

      Now lightning doesn’t always count. See, during those morning storms last year, we may have seen all the lightning in the world, but the storms were not NEARLY as strong as the ones we saw lately. A line of storms climbing from Eugene all the way up to about Beaverton with damaging winds isn’t something you see a lot. I was scanning through wind reports from thunderstorms in the past, and it appears March 9 1995 was our last time we had a similar storm.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Keep your eyes to the sky on August 1st, 2023 then! 😆

  15. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    Well with the stronger Summer monsoon forecast for Oregon that to me would lead to a warmer/hotter than average temps because in order to get a good return flow of monsoonal moisture you need the 4 corners high to back off to the NW putting the 590+dm line over much of Oregon. Just my thoughts on that.

  16. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I wonder what 4th of July will feel like?

    70? 67?

  17. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    I personally think we will have a good summer. We may see cool periods here and there, but we will see those 90+ temps. Given the fact that we already came close to a 90 (88 on June 3), I find 90’s likely. I don’t know about 100, that seems kinda high for this summer.

    BTW, when was our last cold summer?

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      1999 was the last cool summer for the Western US overall.

      2001 was the last truly cool summer for the Portland area in particular.

      We really are due.

  18. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Jesse I remember the 95 in May, but I was talking about summer time. The first two days of July was hot, but not too hot. And I might have forgotten about June 28th.

  19. Rob "Wrath" S.E. Portland says:

    What a perfect day out there and a very pleasant evening as well. Not much weather excitement except for the impressive low pressure area offshore. It looks to be 998-999mb right now. A few buoys off of Vancouver Island are reporting rapid pressure falls -0.14 or so.

    WV Loop
    Shows a fairly well organized system with dry slot. It looks to be tracking into central/northern Vancouver Island. It doesn’t appear that it’s going to deepen any further, but this seems a bit irregular for late June.

  20. Tetra says:

    Actually I am glad it’s not 90F and I hope this is the coolest summer on record. We are due 4 it.

    Maybe we will break some record lows this summer due to an ‘Artic Outbreak’ summertime version.

  21. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Tetra… I am sure we will see 90’s this summer. Last year, it didn’t get real hot until early July. Patience is key my friend.

    • Jesse-Orchards says:


      Last year Portland saw 95 in the middle of May, and 100 on June 28th.

      The first week of July was actually relatively cool and thunderstormy in the Portland area last year.

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  23. Tetra says:

    84.0F here even though it doesn’t feel like it.

    Maybe no 90F+ this summer?

    Like I said thanks for trying to help Joe. 🙂

  24. Tetra says:

    Thanks Joe for answering since my question got shoved in the back-burner in the kitchen. 😦

    The reason why I ask is I get fascinated by how geography plays around with weather. It’s called ‘MicroClimates’ which is a real word.

  25. muxpux says:

    well, longviews at a comfy 75. dang high clouds are so thick, theres no shadows out there. some nice sun rings up in the sky though…

  26. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Well on days like this we are usually hotter than most other locations, so I suppose thats a correct reading…

    • Jesse-Orchards says:

      Looks like Hillsboro had an official high of 79 today.

      That was probably just a faulty station.

  27. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    Is it really 84.6 degrees in Hillsboro? I was just out there for an hour, and wasn’t sure about that.

  28. …I hope someone can/will record the Jack Capell tribute for those of us who can’t make it……

  29. Joe Francona says:

    The first sentence should read: “I am not totally sure.” For some reason every time I post here I always write nonsensical things.

  30. Joe Francona says:

    Triforce, I am totally sure sure why Eugene and Hillsboro get colder at night. They are both in locations where they are pretty much surrounded by hills, so maybe they don’t get as much wind to mix things up and keep the temps higher.

  31. After a relatively cool morning (47°), looks like a great day is upon us…cloud free and little wind….

    Currently 54.1F

    REALLY wish I could make tonight’s meeting (going to the coast for a few days)…Sounds interesting and a tribute to Jack would be very appropriate.

  32. Steve Pierce (Vancouver, WA.) says:

    Double posts! Cool! Twice the coverage! 🙂


  33. Steve Pierce (Vancouver, WA.) says:

    Looking forward to seeing everyone at the AMS meeting tonight.



  34. Steve Pierce says:

    Looking forward to seeing everyone tonight at the AMS meeting.



  35. 42° this morning and not a cloud in sight.

  36. Timmy_Supercell (Hillsboro) says:

    That GOES-R Satellite should be interesting to see. So about three years from now, we should be able to use it?

    We will hit a couple more 80’s today and tomorrow so we better enjoy what we have. On Friday it warms back up a little but not as warm as today.

  37. runrain says:

    Heading to Chicago Thur for a couple of days. Sounds like it will be hot and uncomfortable. Will report back if there is any interesting weather going on.

  38. Austin-Ridgefield says:

    Oh and how do u get pictures up on this im confused with this new 25 century technology lol

  39. Austin-Ridgefield says:

    Holy smokes been gone for awhile and everything changes when did this new layout happen?

    and triforce its eugene dnt worry about it lol

  40. Yevgeniy says:

    I don’t care what anyone says but Mark Nelsen is the god of weather in 21st century 🙂
    Mark has been right like at least 90% of the time on his forecasts unlike anybody else.
    Just wanted to give some props to Mr.Nelsen 🙂
    keep doing excellent job!!! not even joking I am inspired by him and want to be as good of a metereologist as he is right now.

  41. TriforceofEternity says:

    Why does Mcminnville and Euguene get so cold on clear nights?

  42. TVWeatherProducer says:

    I hope everyone can make it. We’ll have a special piece on the life of Jack Capell and an announcement as well about the Oregon AMS and how we’ll remember him.

  43. Aloha Rainshadow says:

    I don’t see any heat soon, looks like small trough, slight ridge, small trough, slight ridge, seems like we are stuck in a rut with this weather pattern. The 00z doesn’t show any rainfall over the next week but doesn’t show any hot temps either.
    Mark, seriously? They won’t let you have someone cover you for the 8 oclock show? Ridiculous, Drew better be there!
    To all those that are going tomorrow, look forward to seeing ya there!

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      That’s a long story…one sick, Drew did early shows, and I wanted to let Steph K. have a fun evening etc…

    • Aloha Rainshadow says:

      Awww, Mark, you have a soft side! I don’t even wanna know about Stephanie’s fun night out…or maybe I do, hahahahahaha.

  44. …Mark, sounds like geek heaven to me!…

  45. Dan Zeit says:

    What happened to the heat? Since the severe trw on June 4 it hasn,t hit 80 in Salem. Thats somewhat unusual it seems to me. Mark do you see any real heat (90+),anytime soon.

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