December Starts Warm

Meadows_12_01_08 Nice image for September isn't it?  This is the base of Mt. Hood Meadows on December 1st.  There SHOULD be a decent amount of snow at this spot (5,400') this time of year, but apparently the ski season is going to start quite late this season.

Before anyone gets too worked up though, remember what happened the winter of 1989-1990.  Very little or no snow fell at pass elevations through the ENTIRE month of December.  Government Camp officially received no snow that month;  the only snowless December on record there.  Then precipitation arrived right around January 1st and the floodgate (or skies) opened up.  Frequent storms moved in for most of the following 6 weeks.  At the same elevation as the picture above (Mt. Hood Test Site), the water in the snowpack went from 7.40" to 31.30" in the month of January.  About 23" of melted precipitation fell, raising the 18" on the ground January 1st up to 105" at the end of the month.  The point is, that the very slow start to the ski season sure doesn't mean it'll be a bad year.  Of course that's what happened in 2000-2001, so who knows?

For the rest of us, the clear message on the short and long range weather maps is slow, slow, slow and boring, boring, boring.  More fog, sun, and occasional east wind.  The first ten days of December are going to be uneventful.  But we can always hope that the arctic blast of the decade is just 5 days after that right?  All I really want is a freeze.  I still have not hit freezing at my home up at 1,000'.  I've had frost on the deck a few times, but only 33 degrees.  None of my plants show any sort of frost damage.  The banana plants are still green and nasturtiums are still growing slowly.  I started early today (8am) and visited four schools down the Valley.  Mt. Angel, S. Salem, Scio, and N. Salem were the stops and then it was back to Beaverton for work.  So it's time to go home, I'll leave the evening forecast in the capable hands of Drew Jackson…heck, maybe I'll even hop on the blog when the 00z comes in just for fun…Mark Nelsen

71 Responses to December Starts Warm

  1. HIO Phil (Punxsutawney) elevation 189' says:

    Yeah Larry,
    I have never seen so many different types of mushrooms up on our coast range property. I also can’t remember when I’ve had the heat turned off most of Novemeber, and at this point, all of December.

  2. Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

    Really cool effect with the fog here at my house. It is hanging about 10′ off the ground with absolutely no fog sitting at the surface on the streets. I took some picks and will see about getting them up later.

  3. boydo3 says:

    I think that next Tues will be still too warm for snow in the mountains. Not enough for ski areas to start up anyway. The current pattern shows no real change coming up in the non fantasy future. Not a good thing to be sure.

  4. TriforceofEternity says:

    Silly me I am tired. I should have put 08-09 first. X: (axe on Triforce) sighs.
    Back to the ranch…er weather. It’s now winter with 47F and partly cloudy skies with a low of 49F

  5. TriforceofEternity says:

    Don’t worry, with the sunspots playing the disappearing act I think if we don’t get anything THIS WINTER we are sure to more then make up for it NEXT Winter.
    PNW Winter 09-10 The Big Monster Snow Year and the Tipsy-Turvy Spring. :O
    08-09 The Year Without the Snow But The Year With The Late Bitter Cold.

  6. Tyler in Vancouver says:

    Glorious…I would say from mid-November on, the east wind can deliver highs in the 20s with clear skies.
    It really only takes about 2 storms to get the mountains in business. Remember some of our storms can dump 2-5′ of snow sometimes.
    Still…it doesn’t look like much snow in the mountains until early next week at the earliest.

  7. Aloha Rainshadow (Formerly Luvry in Aloha) says:

    That’s what I was thinking TV, thanks for the info…with Masoli at QB, I believe he’s starting to look like Dixon last year, we could be really good now that CK is staying around. I’m already ready for a Blount, Masoli, one two punch!!!

  8. TV Weather Producer says:

    Mike will coach the Ducks for the foreseeable future. He won’t take the AD job until at least 2010.

  9. Christiana--Forest Grove says:

    Watching other weather forecasts and they said: that next Tuesday we could get a dumping of snow on the mountain? What’s the chances?

  10. boydo3 says:

    Boring Larry, you are right! We picked Chantrelles last week in the coast range. The season has been going since Sept. No freezing temps there or here. Getting pretty weird tho. I do remember climbing Iron Mtn off the S Santiam Hwy one year on New Years Day. No snow, but beautiful weather for a picnic at 5000′! Lets hope this ends soon.

  11. gloriousnumber1 says:

    Question for all who might know the answer. When usually does the east wind become cold enough to give us 20’s for highs with clear skies and windy conditions? Also, it seems mark is trying to be really optomistic about this month saying that if it starts bad, it could turn around. But what is more likely, a warm dry december and a warm, dry, crappy winter, or a warm dry december and a cold rainy winter with lots of snow in the mountains? I am trying my best not to give up hope for the ski season and maybe some here soon!

  12. Boring Larry in Cherryville el.918 says:

    …something that is a nice side product of all this warm weather is the continual incredible diverse amount of mushroom species popping up after every rain….

  13. TriforceofEternity says:

    Mark Nelson I am going to email you some questions.

  14. Mark, were you there picking up Prozac for your Winter’s weather doldrums? If so, I think Steve and the others on this blog will need some too.

  15. Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    I’m thinking tonights 00z may show a PDX-DLS of 8-10mb.

  16. Mark Nelsen says:

    I met Triforce’s Dad today at a pharmacy here in Portland where he works! Really nice guy and quite a surprise. This blog is everywhere…

  17. Ryan (Walnut Grove) says:

    Rumor has it Santa Claus is going to be dawning a bikini when he makes his run through Portland mistaking it for Sacramento due to weather conditions.

  18. TriforceofEternity says:

    “Lets forget the models! Lets go back to good “old time” weather prediction…Just look up at the sky…is it raining/snowing?…cold?…cloudy?…etc……Lets get those ‘ole ship reports at sea including the famed “Columbia River lightship” and the coastal bar conditions….Just kiddin’…but it was fun in those days to just rely on “weather instincts”………..
    Posted by: mike from orchards | Tuesday, December 02, 2008 at 01:56 PM
    I don’t blame ya.
    I’m sitting at 56 degrees right now…Somebody make it stop!!!!
    Posted by: Andrew Johnson (Silverton) | Tuesday, December 02, 2008 at 01:26 PM
    I’m at 54F for our high.

  19. Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    K5, I think that is exactly what it means.
    I hope so…. Even if the snow was green and yell…
    Wait a minute..
    No yellow snow is never a good thing.
    C’mon 00z….
    At this point I am hoping the Arctic surface high over British Columbia/Alberta slides more west than previous thought to give us all a nice downslope or gorge wind storm…. Yeahhhhhhh!

  20. yevgeniy.beaverton says:

    yea cause everyone hates the ducks on here

  21. k5mitch NE PDX says:

    Quote:
    Breaking News Duck Fans!
    via Fox12 page
    Mike Bellotti is expected to announce Tuesday that he will step aside as University of Oregon’s head football coach.
    Bellotti is expected to take the reigns as the athletic director at the school and make way for current offensive coordinator Chip Kelly to possibly be named head coach.
    Bellotti guided the Ducks past the Oregon State Beavers in the Civil War on Saturday.
    University of Oregon school officials said major changes to the athletic department would be announced at a media conference call Tuesday at 3:30 p.m.
    KPTV.com will update this story when more information becomes available.
    does this mean it is going to snow?

  22. Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    Breaking News Duck Fans!
    via Fox12 page
    Mike Bellotti is expected to announce Tuesday that he will step aside as University of Oregon’s head football coach.
    Bellotti is expected to take the reigns as the athletic director at the school and make way for current offensive coordinator Chip Kelly to possibly be named head coach.
    Bellotti guided the Ducks past the Oregon State Beavers in the Civil War on Saturday.
    University of Oregon school officials said major changes to the athletic department would be announced at a media conference call Tuesday at 3:30 p.m.
    KPTV.com will update this story when more information becomes available.

  23. yevgeniy.beaverton says:

    somehow accuweather convinces me more tan anything else…

  24. Dr. Rob -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    Lol Aly.
    Mat, 40-45kt east winds? Sounds nice.

  25. Tornado Aly (Vancouver) says:

    My dog can predict the weather better than the 18z.

  26. Mat the Salmon Killer says:

    One word for 18Z…..hideous!!!!!!!!

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