Time For Debate!

Seaice_2008 I figure the weather is REALLY slow lately, so let's spice up the discussion with some data.

You may remember that the least amount of Arctic Sea Ice Cover was recorded last September.  Of course thats the least since satellite measurements began around 30 years ago…keep that in mind.

Of course each winter a large area refreezes and then melts in the spring/summer.  So obviously you can ONLY compare the maximum in any winter and/or the minimum at the end of each summer.  I remember some posters last winter mentioning that the sea ice had "recovered".  It does that every year.  But how low is the minimum each September or how high is the maximum in March?  Well, take a look at the chart.  As of today, 2008 has the 2nd lowest sea ice cover on record.  Notice the line is dropping quickly and probably will for another week to 3 weeks.  This year MAY end up with the smallest ice cover on record!  Here's the press release from the National Snow/Ice Data Center.

So what does that have to do with our weather?  Not much, at least in the short term, but it's like screaming tornado in a theater full of weather nuts.  Just something fun for this cool Tuesday evening.

The arctic climate is clearly warming, that's no surprise, but will it continue?  Sunspots anyone?  IPCC?  Mothership behind the moon?  Smoking Man?  Cylons? Go ahead and discuss, just don't get up in each other's "grills" and make me have to ban anyone.

My thoughts on global warming are here.  Feel free to put yours in the comments below.

Mark Nelsen 

201 Responses to Time For Debate!

  1. Atmospheric Wrath -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    2 other Tucson cams from the same link, but were hidden.
    http://pw_ne.transview.org/top/liveapplet.html
    http://pw_sw.transview.org/top/liveapplet.html

  2. Atmospheric Wrath -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    2 other Tucson cams from the same link, but were hidden.
    http://pw_ne.transview.org/top/liveapplet.html
    http://pw_sw.transview.org/top/liveapplet.html

  3. Atmospheric Wrath -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    Thanks.
    Yep it has been very nice.
    Looking east of there a lot more t-storms some severe are moving west towards Tucson.

  4. Atmospheric Wrath -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    Thanks.
    Yep it has been very nice.
    Looking east of there a lot more t-storms some severe are moving west towards Tucson.

  5. Atmospheric Wrath -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    Thanks.
    Yep it has been very nice.
    Looking east of there a lot more t-storms some severe are moving west towards Tucson.

  6. Luvry says:

    Nice cams, nice action rob!

  7. Atmospheric Wrath -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    Want some weather action?
    Lots of lightning on the Tucson, Arizona cams.
    http://pw_nw.transview.org/top/liveapplet.html
    http://pw_se.transview.org/top/liveapplet.html

  8. Boring Larry in Cherryville el.918 says:

    ….but if you could wait till the week after Labor day….it’s a whole new ball game for camping then!…
    …this looks like a frieght train of moisture to me….
    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

  9. Boring Larry in Cherryville el.918 says:

    ….but if you could wait till the week after Labor day….it’s a whole new ball game for camping then!…
    …this looks like a frieght train of moisture to me….
    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

  10. Boring Larry in Cherryville el.918 says:

    ….but if you could wait till the week after Labor day….it’s a whole new ball game for camping then!…
    …this looks like a frieght train of moisture to me….
    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

  11. Mark Nelsen says:

    Example: Some family friends and mine wanted to get together at the Coast in mid-July. We looked for camping spots in early February. All state parks out there were pretty much full already back then! Wayne says you should book state park camping spots (for the weekend) a good 6-9 months in advance.

  12. Mark Nelsen says:

    Example: Some family friends and mine wanted to get together at the Coast in mid-July. We looked for camping spots in early February. All state parks out there were pretty much full already back then! Wayne says you should book state park camping spots (for the weekend) a good 6-9 months in advance.

  13. Mark Nelsen says:

    Example: Some family friends and mine wanted to get together at the Coast in mid-July. We looked for camping spots in early February. All state parks out there were pretty much full already back then! Wayne says you should book state park camping spots (for the weekend) a good 6-9 months in advance.

  14. Mike (Sweet Home) says:

    Tri: Don’t blame the Almightly for not planning in advance. Oregon Caves a popular location, you do not wait until last minute on a holiday weekend.
    A warm 81.7°

  15. Mike (Sweet Home) says:

    Tri: Don’t blame the Almightly for not planning in advance. Oregon Caves a popular location, you do not wait until last minute on a holiday weekend.
    A warm 81.7°

  16. TriforceofInvisiblity says:

    Never mind almost all the rooms are booked so it’s canceled. 😦 If there is a God I hate him.

  17. TriforceofInvisiblity says:

    Never mind almost all the rooms are booked so it’s canceled. 😦 If there is a God I hate him.

  18. TriforceofInvisiblity says:

    Never mind almost all the rooms are booked so it’s canceled. 😦 If there is a God I hate him.

  19. TriforceofInvisiblity says:

    New news though it’s kinda off subject but on subject in a way:
    Dad just annouce we may go to the Oregon Caves this weekend and I wish 2 know if it’s claustrophobic busy on Labor Day weekend there?
    Triforce also wishes to know if I will experience some chilly nights there. Hopefully the answer is yes. Sat/Sun. I am glad the Oregon Cave’s is not hot inside.
    When you can please answer after the tone. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!

  20. TriforceofInvisiblity says:

    New news though it’s kinda off subject but on subject in a way:
    Dad just annouce we may go to the Oregon Caves this weekend and I wish 2 know if it’s claustrophobic busy on Labor Day weekend there?
    Triforce also wishes to know if I will experience some chilly nights there. Hopefully the answer is yes. Sat/Sun. I am glad the Oregon Cave’s is not hot inside.
    When you can please answer after the tone. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!

  21. Atmospheric Wrath -Far S.E. Portland- says:

    That link is…. scary bad.
    Yikes….
    It may come true. I know the Tropical Expert over at Wunderground is using some bullish terms.
    [Dr. Jeff Masters’ WunderBlog]
    Jamaica is feeling the full force of Tropical Storm Gustav, as torrential rains and near-hurricane force winds pound the island. At 1:55 pm EDT, the Hurricane Hunters found the eye of Gustav on the eastern tip of Jamaica. Gustav’s central pressure had dropped another 2 mb, to 983 mb, and the surface winds were at 70 mph, just below hurricane strength. Kingston, Jamaica recently reported sustained winds of 35 mph, and the pressure falling, at 995 mb.
    It’s a surprise the Gustav is here at all, because the atmosphere pulled a major trick out of The Joker’s book last night. The ridge of high pressure that was forcing Gustav to the west shifted positions to be oriented southwest-to-northeast. This pushed Gustav to the southwest, and pumped in some dry air into the northwest side of Gustav. As a result of this dry air, and the weakening of the circulation due to interaction with Haiti’s mountains, Gustav was forced to form a new center under heavy thunderstorms on its south side, away from Haiti and the dry air. As a result, Gustav is now pounding Jamaica. The ridge that forced Gustav southwest has now re-oriented itself, and is pushing Gustav due west again.
    ———————————————-
    My thoughts…
    I am not a Hurricane Expert, but given the new projected track keeping it over the very warm waters more so than over land areas I think the strength may be underdone with this thing. They have it moving near the western tip of Cuba, but remaining over the water… Cat 2-4 by the time it is in the Gulf?

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