Brief Comments

Just a brief post at mid-afternoon.  I’m going to wait until after 5pm to post again (after my busy schedule dies down and the early evening TV forecasts are already made).  I see the NWS has issued a Winter Storm Warning now for the metro area…isn’t that interesting…

Nice chilly airmass overhead.  PDX is only 34, easterly flow coming out of the Gorge at Corbett is only 27 degrees at about 700′.  Dewpoints are way down too.  Unfortunately PDX-DLS gradient is a weak 4 millibars, hardly ice storm material there.  This would seem to support snow or freezing rain tonight when precip begins sometime between 10pm and 1am.  But maybe not?  I’m making the forecast right now and I’ll be back in a couple hours.
I DO notice that Salem and Kelso are probably already out of the "danger zone" with 36 and a dewpoint of 29 (or 28 at KLS).  That is too warm for freezing rain even with evaporative cooling when the precip starts.  That doesn’t even account for warming from a south wind by midnight in both spots.   And forget about cooling tonight, we’ve got solid cloud cover overhead…Mark

175 Responses to Brief Comments

  1. Alicia says:

    Is there a website to give me current tep’s?

  2. Alicia says:

    Is there a website to check current tep’s?

  3. Andrew---Ellensburg, Wa and Portland, Or says:

    wow, whats up with the weather channel lol? gives me a low of 16 for tonight and a high of 39 for tomorrow. I am already down to 12 degrees here and i doubt i will get above the low 20’s tomorrow.

  4. Justin says:

    Looks like -100 refueled the problem with the clock, thanks man (j/k of course). Oh well, prepare for another hour of that at the top. Time for dinner here btw.

  5. -100F says:

    Yeah, to get a better understanding of what will likely happen in the next couple of hours. We should more closely inspect the differences between 11/18/05 and this event.

  6. Emz in Tigard says:

    i’m a long time oregonian.. been here 25 years & i’m 25 yrs old! 🙂
    i felt inclined to post cos everyone is talking about december 18th & how this storm is similar.. & it makes me laugh cos that was my wedding day last year! GREAT day indeed!
    out here in tigard its still a tad above freezing, 33 to be exact.. when i was driving around earlier my car therm went from 35 to 34 to 35 to 36 to 38 & back down to 36.. i hope it was the therms issue & not the actual temp..
    i’m cheering for those whom are hoping & saying that this warm air will be weak if anything.. i like the cold & i love the weather that comes w/ it..

  7. Rob *Southeast Portland* says:

    Focus on weather people. Not everyone is going to agree with everyones opinion, but find a better way to conduct yourself if you’re in disagreement about something.
    Personal attacks, or blatantly saying someone is wrong is uncalled for and isn’t good for the Blog.
    Btw I’m 32.7F I guess due to thicker clouds.

  8. Kristan says:

    New post from Mark!

  9. -100F says:

    haha, lol. so how does that happen?

  10. Main Entry: 1lit·tle
    Pronunciation: ‘li-t&l
    Function: adjective
    Inflected Form(s): lit·tler /’li-t&l-&r, ‘lit-l&r /; or less /’les /; or less·er /’le-s&r/; lit·tlest /’li-t&l-&st, ‘lit-l&st /; or least /’lEst/
    Etymology: Middle English littel, from Old English lytel; akin to Old High German luzzil little
    1 : not big: as a : small in size or extent : TINY b : YOUNG c of a plant or animal : small in comparison with related forms — used in vernacular names d : having few members or inhabitants e : small in condition, distinction, or scope f : NARROW, MEAN g : pleasingly small h — used as an intensive
    2 : not much: as a : existing only in a small amount or to a slight degree b : short in duration : BRIEF c : existing to an appreciable though not extensive degree or amount — used with a
    3 : small in importance or interest : TRIVIAL
    ——read #3….

  11. Justin says:

    LMAO, that’s a hoot, I make a post about it, and guess what happens? Well, talk about ironic.

  12. timmy - scappoose says:

    lol @ brian. i could go off on you, but i’ll show some restraint. suprised? im cracking up right now. wow… no actually i work for Dell at Boeing in troutdale. and i have been on this blog for a total of like a hour in the last 3 days. been super busy. and if you want you can see my myspace and ask my friends if you want. to see if im like this in real life. cause i am! im not hiding behind anything.

  13. Sean (Lebanon, Indiana) says:

    Thought I would just throw something different up here..
    In southwestern missouri, there is a county that is under both a Winter Storm Warning and Tornado Warning.. Talk about the best of both worlds..

  14. timmy - scappoose says:

    mark probably agrees with my stance on the storm. why is it that im at fault, is it because you wan to see snow so bad? pilot called me little timmy, seeing as how he has never met me. he was putting me down. that is putting himself above me. so why dont you email mark about him?

  15. Justin says:

    I agree for now wwm, I think once the front is approaching within 50-75 miles of us, we’ll start to see the offshore flow gradually weaken, so probably 8-10am is when everyone west of Corbett is switched over by. But its the time in between now and then that I’m interested in, I’m starting to agree more with Jesse thinking along the lines that here in East County we could see most of the precip fall frozen, either as snow, sleet, or zr.
    And if you don’t like somebody, then just ignore them please. I hope we can all act mature enough on here to hold a conversation, and if we can’t then just don’t talk at all. But we don’t need a bunch of useless posts from everyone bickering, just ignore them and let them be. And this goes to both sides here….

  16. jacob BPA says:

    Wendy if you are at 32 then its freezing rain

  17. Brian says:

    I’m with you Josh. Something tells me Timmy wouldn’t treat people this if he saw them in person. He likes to hide behind his monitor and keyboard where he is safe and just annoy people. Sure you can say whatever you want and claim that have the right to state your opinions, but when you bring down the entire weather blog community with you putdowns, smart ass comments, and absolute asinine behavior, people have a right to compain.

  18. timmy - scappoose says:

    i dont even know i am arguing, this is a mild storm! i think its slightly warmer than average! so there. satisfied? and mild means average. i dont care if you think otherwise. the point is that this storm is average or above temperatures for this time of year. that is the storm itself. becuase we have a cool atomosphere. it will be colder here. but the snow level will be around or above gov. camp level once the front warms us.

  19. wendy-silverlake says:

    32 degrees and raining

  20. jacob BPA says:

    easy people lets all get along

  21. w.w.m. says:

    I was saying that in reference to the e. wind staying with us and the storm staying zr longer by the way.
    Like I said hopefully it will, but my opinion is it will start out and change to rain by 9am or sooner in Portland and 10 or 11 in east county areas and that is why. hopefully I am wrong

  22. josh from Everett, WA says:

    Time to send Mark another Email about Timmy’s poor attitude on this blog. Who else is with me?

  23. Derek-West Gresham says:

    Its going to snow and ice! Its a done deal here, so get off my case. I really don’t care what happens at your house but it will at mine. ttyl guys.

  24. Justin says:

    Agreed -100.
    Also, whoever it was who said earlier that we were warmer when the snow/sleet started last december brought up a good point. I had reached 35 before the moisture made it in, and it still brought snow initially, with the upper levels of thre atmosphere looking much like they do today. And I’m now 5 degrees colder than I was on 12/18

  25. timmy - scappoose says:

    “little timmy” that is degrading OMG, this guy should get out! ahhh! i cant take someone telling me off. lol NOT!
    for one i am right, 2 even if i wasnt i could take it like a man

  26. Steve D says:

    Govt Camp ODOT wx cam station at 4,000 ft – 23 degrees
    Rhodedendron 1,300 ft on way to Mt. Hood – 30.7 degrees
    Sylvan in West Hills at 900 ft – 29 degrees

  27. timmy - scappoose says:

    no derek, i was mearly pointing pointing out that you were very incorrect in waht you are saying. and i was right by saying that.
    im not going to leave because i proved you wrong. im sorry if you dont like being wrong, but maybe you shouldnt jump to conclusions without evidence?
    if you cant handle being wrong, maybe you should put more thought into your forcasts

  28. No little timmy it doesn’t…I don’t care what dictionary says… You don’t hear some say it’s sure feels bland today. Don’t play stupid, you know it does.

  29. w.w.m. says:

    Not trying to rain on the storm parade but if the storm is going by to the north, as soon as it passes it will kill the east wind and usher in warmer pacific air behind it. Once higher pressure gets reestablished and another front starts its approch the wind will begin to switch again. I could see the east wind lasting longer if it was stronger, but it is fairly weak compared to what those of us on the east side are used too. Maybe I am wronga, but don’t think so.

  30. Justin says:

    Temp falling again nicely out here, now down to 30.
    And ‘mild’ is a generic weather term used to describe unusually warm or pleasant temperatures. Come on dude, I think you knew that. 3 degrees below average is not mild.

  31. Matthias - North Portland says:

    Timmy…in weather the word “mild” often connotes slightly warmer than average conditions.

  32. -100F says:

    What ever moisture comes in right now should come down as snow for almost every (atleast initially). The upper layers still look cold enough for snow…
    I am confident I will see atleast some snow..

  33. Derek-West Gresham says:

    Hey timmy get off of here. “derek you couldnt be further from right” This is called a personal attack. I suggest you keep your comments to yourself if they are going to be natured like that. And, we should wait until tomorrow before we start with the who was right who was wrong game.

  34. timmy - scappoose says:

    no pilot it doesnt. mild means average. its in the dictionary. why would they change the meaning of a word? thats like saying, in basketball, good means bad.

  35. timmy - scappoose says:

    the graident is the pressure difference from one point to another. the higher the gradient, meaning a greater pressure diffference between 2 points. the more wind.

  36. Aleta--West Gresham says:

    Hopefully my car therm. was off but I started at 151st and Division and it was 37 and by 162nd and Stark it said 33. ???

  37. Mild when your talking about the weather = warm

  38. timmy - scappoose says:

    hmmm 48 is about the average, or “mild” for this time of year… am i right???

  39. timmy - scappoose says:

    from wiki. Mild is a generic term that is normally used to mean average, bland (lacking zest), or not strong.

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