Snow Possible in Valley Thursday & Friday

The National Weather Service has issued a Winter Storm Watch for the south Willamette Valley for Thursday, that includes Albany/Corvallis down to Eugene.  In the valleys, a winter storm watch is issued when 4″ of snow is possible.

The Highlights

1. We have a greater than normal level of uncertainty with the forecast for the next 3 days.  Models are in quite a bit of disagreement about how much snow falls where and when.

2. Whatever falls in the valley from Kelso to Portland to Eugene through Saturday should be frozen (snow or freezing rain).

3.  You should be flexible with work and other plans Thursday, Friday and Saturday.  And assume the forecast could change with just 24 hours notice.

4. A very good chance areas south of the Portland metro area get a decent snowstorm in the next 2 days.

I mentioned this in last night’s posting, but now it’s even worse.  A wide variety of model solutions for the next 2-3 days.  ALL models show some surface low pressure systems tracking along the arctic air boundary draped across the middle of Oregon.  ALL bring moisture at least through southern Oregon.  But SOME bring it much farther north, right into the Portland metro area and even Longview/Kelso.

Here is our RPM model forecast (it isn’t always right on!) for noon tomorrow.  Light snow that starts in the southern valley slips north and starts showing up tomorrow afternoon in the metro area.

rpm_noon_thu

and then at 4pm tomorrow showing the heavier snow down the valley.

rpm_4pm_thu

and the total snowfall forecast by Friday morning.  The 2″ line cuts across the south side of the Portland metro area with 4-8″ south of Salem!

rpm_snow_4amfri

But look at the snow accumulation forecast from UW’s reliable WRF-GFS model:

or_snow48.48.0000

much farther south!  In this case there would be NO snow in the valley tomorrow, but a nice snowstorm at Roseburg.  Now these are only two models, we have more, but I wanted to illustrate what a tough forecast it is for tomorrow.  I should also point out both were “initialized” at the same time, early this morning.  Just 1/2 hour ago another very trusty model came in, the ECMWF (the European model).  It has decided to run the surface low pressure directly into the north valley instead, plunging the metro area and valley into a midday/afternoon snowstorm with gusty east wind and temps in the 20s!  Here is the 4pm precipitation forecast (with surface pressure lines too):

ecm_4pm_thu

This could produce 2-4″ in time for the afternoon commute…hmmm.

Luckily we have a few more models that come out this afternoon, then a whole bunch more this evening.  Hopefully they will come into better agreement.  We don’t need an “Atlanta-Style” commute  Thursday afternoon.

The main message:  There is a very good chance for at least some snow in the central/southern valley (and central coast) tomorrow, and it MAY spread farther north into the metro area, but we’re not sure yet.

Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

113 Responses to Snow Possible in Valley Thursday & Friday

  1. OregonCoastWX says:

    “Winter Advisory” Who in the hell comes up with these forecast.?
    It is has been snowing hard since 11:00 am and we have several inches of snow in Tillamook. The wind has been blowing non stop from East- Northeast..

  2. I keep hearing on your news cast about the snow storm in December 2009, But you as weather casters should know it was December 2008 that the heavy snows came down just in time to make last minute Christmas shopping hazardous. Check your facts please.. Rick

    • Mark Nelsen says:

      I think the news people were referring to the surprise snowstorm 2-5″ on December 29, 2009. The one where we forecast 34 and rain. Instead it was 32 and snow.

  3. Snow89 says:

    OOZ GFS for tomorrow at 4pm. Can you believe it’s only 19 hours away. The afternoon/evening commute is going to be a mess if this verifies.

    http://oi59.tinypic.com/123slf4.jpg

  4. geo says:

    Mark’s revised 7 day shows a dry slot Sat.P.M. to Sun.A.M.

  5. alohabb says:

    tr-1″ possible for Portland..

    • Seahawks Fan - East Vancouver says:

      I’d take that! I was expecting nothing until the weekend anyways.

    • PeteCJ says:

      The 00Z runs tonight will paint the best picture. There’s still been too much disagreement. They should start lining up on a solid solution from here forward, at least for tomorrow’s event.

    • Dave in South Salem (500') says:

      Its going to be partly cloudy like today, or maybe 35 degrees rain

    • Dave in South Salem (500') says:

      OK everybody, time to move to the next post

  6. Seahawks Fan - East Vancouver says:

    Mark might have to get the snowflakes going again.. We can only hope the train leaves the station soon. We are now within 24 hours of the “first event”.

  7. GTS1K' says:

    Cheese! 19.4 already!!!

  8. Rick says:

    The TAF (aviation forecast) is calling for light snow at Hillsboro airport (HIO) after 10am

  9. brianinkeizer says:

    Here is to hoping it SNOWS!!!

  10. EY (Oak Grove) says:

    Out of curiosity… Will we expect any place in Oregon to dip below -30 with this cold snap? In December there was a place that hit what? -41?

  11. So far this year is doing good but only do to people waking up as the truth gets exposed.

  12. Chris says:

    This is the first time I’ve read your weather blog. I love it. Thank you for explaining things and not jumping to early conclusions for ratings. When I was a cargo pilot flying out of PDX and all over Oregon, I always trusted your forecast over any others. Keep up the good work! Thanks

  13. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    Well, it seems with the gradient only slowly increasing that we won’t get near the High Wind Warning/Wind Advisory, but then there’s this

    12z 4km Time-Height. This may be the most impressive I’ve ever seen for east wind. Check out all of the 45-50kt wind barbs just off the surface. IF this comes to fruition not only will the High Wind Warning verify, but there’s a distinct outside chance we may need another issued east of I-205. For sure the Wind Advisory gusts 50mph+ will be realized. http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/images_d3/kpdx.th.gif

    • JohnD says:

      BUT WIL PDX GET PRECIPITATION IN EARNEST
      ALONG WITH THIS?!?!

    • Lauraholic says:

      I don’t care about wind.. I want that precip to the south of us to move this way! Maybe if I wish hard enough, it will happen! ChooChoo!

    • Jake-(Gresham) says:

      Yeah to be quite honest I think most of us East of I-205 are used to the wind. The only thing that’d wake up my neighborhood is if the Douglas firs started crashing around us but that hasn’t happened in 10 years?

    • JERAT416 says:

      If I could choose how this will go, here goes. I speak for the PDX area, not south of here. I would like to see steady snow start friday evening around 7. Then I would like to see it continue until about 9pm saturday. Then, we suddenly get a strong south wind, bringing us through a brief period of light freezing rain due to the front moving through at the same time, with skies mostly clearing. Then, by daybreak it’s 40+ degrees and raining. A full 24 hours of playing in the snow, little commute issues, and no power outages.

      Who is with me in my wishcast?

    • Roman~Snow-Zone-Monmouth, Elv. 223' says:

      nah, I would prefer 72hrs of steady heavy snow leaving about 2-3′ on the valley floor followed by crystal clear blue sunny skies and very cold temps.

    • Ryan says:

      2nd that!

    • JERAT416 says:

      Well, that sounds fun, but I was specifically talking about THIS setup. What you mentioned isn’t even a possibility with this pattern. December 2008 was ridiculously snowy, and wouldn’t have been so bad except they did such a bad job of taking care of the roads. I never saw even one plow out clearing the roads to eliminate the ruts and big bumps around the manhole covers. The Portland area gets a big fat F for how well they did on our streets. I got tired of the snow eventually, since I had to go to work. Now take away my need to drive and travel, give me a comfy cabin full of food and a fireplace with tons of wood to burn and my favorite people to hang out with, and I would be down for multiple feet of snow :)

    • Jake-(Gresham) says:

      Well I’m afraid Portland doesn’t have the equipment for storms like the December 2008 storm which are quite rare really. I actually remember the news showing them bringing equipment off Mt. Hood for I-5 and I-205 so in fairness it was a pretty bad storm.
      My neighborhood after a week was eventually plowed privately by some guy (we all kind of came out of our houses and gave him cash). He had a big truck with a plow on the front (looked pretty cool lol!). My dad got to work with my neighbor who has a Ford F250 (after the road was plowed of course).
      My point being, in weather situations like that I believe as individuals we shouldn’t rely or expect the government or anybody really to provide all the necessary services. We should all do our part in taking care of ourselves and those around us. This is just my opinion of course and I’m not really directing this post towards you JERAT416 but more in general to people who as adults should take on the situation themselves. But hey that’s just my 2 cents on the matter.

    • JERAT416 says:

      Jake, I agree. I will never say “Please Big Brother, take care of me!” to the government. I also do not take your comment as an attack on me. I don’t participate in any drama on this blog, nor do I even understand it. What I mean is, had I been in charge, I would have brought in equipment from around the country, even Canada if necessary. Then I would do such a great job making the roads clear, when there was a ballot measure later to ask for millions of dollars to pay for that extra cost, it would pass by 80%+, and even tight wads would agree the money needed to be spent to get things done.

    • Jake-(Gresham) says:

      Well then you’d have my vote hahaha! :D

  14. WEATHERDAN says:

    In early February 1996 we had a cold spell just like this. Then we had a snowstorm/ZR storm just like the one predicted for Thursday through Saturday. Then came the very heavy tropical rain that we may get next week. Remember what happened after that. F L O O D !!!. Sometimes history does repeat itself. Same thing happened just before Christmas 1m 1964. Not saying that it will happen, but it is something to watch.

    • chris s says:

      Ya, I remember that event well, but if I remember correctly we had quite a bit more snowpack, especially in the 3-5k level in the mountains than we do now. But, it is eerily similar in the dates, that’s for sure. Lets hope for no pineapples and we should be ok.

    • dharmabum says:

      And in 1996 most of January was very cold and dry with persistent east winds, then the freezing precipitation and subsequent flooding.

    • Muxpux (Castle Rock 175') says:

      The snowpack is definitely at play here as we’ll as reservoir levels. We be good

  15. Rob - Southeast Portland says:

    Notice 18z GFS has The Dalles MUCH colder than 12z did. It also has correct 850mb temps. 12z had -15c roughly, and 18z -21c. Current analysis shows 18z to be correct. What does this or could this mean? PDX isn’t going to moderate anytime soon. It might even turn colder if the E wind continues and especially with added cloud cover. We saw how models were wrong today it was a bit colder than expected. I believe that may carry through Thursday – Saturday.

    Check out the extracted data though 00z Sunday(HR 78) VERY COLD and that will just keep PDX metro in the deep freezer. Will probably have to lower temps Thursday through Saturday.
    http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample.shtml?text=kdls

  16. Jake-(Gresham) says:

    According to the 18Z GFS MLS looks like by hour 33 Salem will be the main area for the most accumulation of snow (Thursday evening).

  17. Muxpux (Castle Rock 175') says:

    NWSfor Saturday says 3-5″ for Portland and 3-7″ for here? Is Saturday a storm for us up here?

  18. boydo3 N Albany says:

    18Z GFS shows snow beginning in the south valley before noon on Thurs. The main low stays south but pumps up precip. all the way north of PDX thru Sat. Stays cold thru Sunday in PDX but moderating in the valley late Sat.
    That would be FUN!

  19. W7ENK says:

    WINTER STORM WATCH
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
    308 PM PST WED FEB 5 2014

    http://inws.wrh.noaa.gov/weather/alertinfo/14492961

    • Mark says:

      Time for the blog to be updated, as the warning for the Southern Willamette valley, has now been updated to include the Portland Metro area.

      The latest precip models must be in! Time to go check them out!

    • Dave in South Salem (500') says:

      They updated the AFD too. Vort maxes, deformation bands and baroclinic zones, and uncertainty all mentioned in one long glorious paragraph.

    • Brandan says:

      I can’t describe to you all how incredibly difficult this is making it to work today. Can’t focus >.<

  20. Randy says:

    Over on the pdx weather forum good old Steve pierce has the cya of all time. In my book that is as bad as wish casting. Right after he posted that there was a wow issued for portland area. Ha!

  21. Andrew (Beaverton, OR) says:

    Winter Storm Watch
    URGENT – WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
    308 PM PST WED FEB 5 2014

    ORZ006-015-016-WAZ039-045-046-060800-
    /O.EXB.KPQR.WS.A.0002.140206T1800Z-140207T1500Z/
    GREATER PORTLAND METRO AREA-WESTERN COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE-
    CENTRAL COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE-GREATER VANCOUVER AREA-
    INCLUDING THE CITIES OF…HILLSBORO…PORTLAND…OREGON CITY…
    GRESHAM…TROUTDALE…VANCOUVER…BATTLE GROUND…CAMAS…
    WASHOUGAL
    308 PM PST WED FEB 5 2014

    …WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH
    FRIDAY MORNING THE PORTLAND AND VANCOUVER METRO AREA AND FOR THE
    WESTERN AND CENTRAL COLUMBIA RIVER GORGE……

    THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PORTLAND HAS ISSUED A WINTER
    STORM WATCH FOR SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW FROM LATE THURSDAY MORNING
    THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING.

    TIMING…BEGINNING MIDDAY THURSDAY…PEAK INTENSITY IN THE
    EVENING…AND TAPERING TO SNOW SHOWERS FRIDAY MORNING.
    ACCUMULATION…1 TO 5 INCHES.
    WIND: EVEN IF ACCUMULATIONS ARE NOT AS HIGH…EAST WINDS WILL
    CREATE CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW DURING THE
    EVENING COMMUTE.
    LOCATIONS INCLUDE…THE ENTIRE PORTLAND AND VANCOUVER METRO
    AREA…TROUTDALE…MULTNOMAH FALLS…CASCADE LOCKS…HOOD RIVER.
    IMPACTS…A PERIOD OF HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW HAS THE
    POTENTIAL TO MAKE TRAVEL DIFFICULT… ESPECIALLY THURSDAY
    AFTERNOON AND DURING THE THURSDAY EVENING COMMUTE.

    PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS…

    A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
    SNOW…SLEET…OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.
    CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

  22. Sapo says:

    Does anyone have a link for ECMWF precipitation forecast?

  23. Belmont/23rd says:

    So I’ve been lurking this blog for like ever and although I have almost no idea what I’m talking about, here is what my own experiences (lived here for 23 years) tell my gut: Little if anything for PDX tomorrow as most of the moisture tracks south of town followed by either brief ZR Friday/Saturday OR nothing (as our frigid air consumes any moisture we would have received before warming) followed by regular old rain. I also genuinely hope I am wrong

    • Positivewins says:

      No one ever went broke betting against snow in Portland, so you’re on the side of the odds. Arctic front stalls at the Columbia? Moisture never arrives? Both? History tells us that’s the result in over 90 percent of the cases.

  24. Dakota says:

    Haha nobody knows what to think.

    UPDATE….GETTING A BIT MORE NERVOUS THAT THE NORTHWARD TREND OF
    PRECIPITATION AND ASSOCIATED DEFORMATION PRECIPITATION MAY BE A BIT
    MORE WIDESPREAD. THE 12Z ECMWF IS COMING IN WITH SIGNIFICANT
    ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS THE VALLEY WITH A SURFACE LOW FARTHER NORTH.
    OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE AGAIN FROM PREVIOUS RUNS AND
    WILL ADD UNCERTAINTY TO THE FORECAST. THE GFS AND NAM STILL KEEP
    THE FOCUS SOUTH. THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN THE MODELS HAS BEEN HOW THE
    UPPER LOW EVOLVES TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA. NOW ITS GOING OFFSHORE
    AND OPENING THE DOOR TO VORT MAXES TO ITS SOUTH. WITH A STRONG
    BAROCLINIC ZONE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE IT WONT SNOW IN THE VALLEY
    TOMOORROW…AND WE SAW THAT THE LAST FEW DAYS HOW EASY IT WAS TO
    RING OUT FLURRIES OUT OF WEAK FORCING. ABOUT THE BEST MESSAGE I CAN
    PUT OUT NOW IS…RESIDENTS SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR SNOW TOMORROW
    AFTERNOON AND EVENING. CONFIDENCE ON AMOUNTS AND LOCATIONS ARE LOW.
    WILL CONTINUE THE IDEA THAT THE BEST ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE SOUTH BUT
    WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH THIS. I WISH I COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC THAN
    THAT. /KMD

  25. Jake-(Gresham) says:

    It’s crazy that the computer models are all over the place when this system is supposed to come in by as early as tomorrow afternoon!

    All I know is I’m excited!

  26. schmit44 says:

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  27. Dave in South Salem (500') says:

    I’m really looking forward to the evening models.

    • Dakota says:

      What time do the new models come out? They need to push some of the snow up to Vancouver tomorrow!

  28. WEATHERDAN says:

    Salem looks like we have a good chance of 1-3 inches of snow on Thursday and maybe more. Now look what happened in Eugene in December when thy had a foot of snow. The minimum dropped to -10 degrees. If most of us wind up with a big dump of snow it will easily bring valley low down to the single digits, Then when the snow returns on Friday night into Saturday it should retard the rise in temperatures for a few hours. So it looks to me that snow will happen until Saturday evening then a period of several hours of ZR until early on Sunday morning in the mid valley. Hopefully all will be ok for the Monday AM rush. Perfect timing for a snow and ice event. One more thing, the GFS Meteogram shows another Arctic blast hiting us in about the 10-12 day time frame, hmmm. Peace.

  29. BoringOregon says:

    Thanks for the update mark! I hope people listen to this so they don’t end up being like the people in Atlanta!! Just heard the weather channel guy talking about us getting a good snow storm, even Kgw is saying it now.

  30. poolsidemike says:

    All i can say is “we’ll know what happens when it does and no sooner”, “it will last either short or long”, and “I am having a tough time concentrating at work today because all I want to do is read about the weather!”

    Now the question I have for you guys that are smart about this stuff….IF things work out and Portland gets a good shot of snow tomorrow into Friday from this first system, does that change the dynamics and timing of the original thought of snow on Saturday eventually changing to ZR and then warming up by Sunday/Monday? In other words, does it start the warming sooner than if we don’t get anything tomorrow and just on Saturday?

    • JohnD says:

      Right there with ya Mike–all aspects. OR even
      change the overall dynamics MORE favorably,
      enhancing Sat. and delaying the warmup?! But
      right now, just darn excited about the
      potential for TOMORROW!

    • WX NINJA says:

      It will depend more on where the Low’s head than anything. Once a low goes North of Portland then the South winds should kick in warming the upper layers and then the surface ending our snow or zr chances. As Mark stated, the models are all over the place and the best thing to do is see how they develop between now and tomorrow. If you keep a close eye on the radar tomorrow you should have a pretty good eye of what is going to happen and all precip should be snow for tomorrow.

  31. paulbeugene says:

    Hard to imagine that we have shot at breaking all time February 24 hour snow record (5.7″/1993) . This after breaking December 24h record for snow in 2013 in Eugene.

    With Euro showing northward shift of precip, am a bit concerned it could change over to rain down here. Will have to see what 18z and 00z model output shows

  32. WestsideWes says:

    AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
    1055 AM PST WED FEB 5 2014

    .SYNOPSIS…COLDER CANADIAN AIR WILL CONTINUE TO FILTER INTO
    SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
    DAYS. STRONG EAST WIND WILL RESULT IN EXTREMELY COLD WIND CHILLS TO
    MANY AREAS…ESPECIALLY IN THE MOUNTAINS. AN UPPER LEVEL LOW
    WILL SETTLE OVER NW WASHINGTON THURSDAY. A SERIES OF DISTURBANCES
    CIRCULATING AROUND THIS LOW WILL BRING PERIODS OF SNOW TO NW OREGON
    AND SW WASHINGTON THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING. A SWITCH
    TO A MILDER AND MORE MOIST WEST FLOW ALOFT OCCURS OVER THE WEEKEND.
    THIS WILL BRING A THREAT OF SNOW…AND FREEZING RAIN TO MUCH OF THE
    NORTHERN AREAS…ESPECIALLY THE COLUMBIA GORGE.

    .UPDATE….GETTING A BIT MORE NERVOUS THAT THE NORTHWARD TREND OF
    PRECIPITATION AND ASSOCIATED DEFORMATION PRECIPITATION MAY BE A BIT
    MORE WIDESPREAD. THE 12Z ECMWF IS COMING IN WITH SIGNIFICANT
    ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS THE VALLEY WITH A SURFACE LOW FARTHER NORTH.
    OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE AGAIN FROM PREVIOUS RUNS AND
    WILL ADD UNCERTAINTY TO THE FORECAST. THE GFS AND NAM STILL KEEP
    THE FOCUS SOUTH. THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN THE MODELS HAS BEEN HOW THE
    UPPER LOW EVOLVES TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA. NOW ITS GOING OFFSHORE
    AND OPENING THE DOOR TO VORT MAXES TO ITS SOUTH. WITH A STRONG
    BAROCLINIC ZONE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE IT WONT SNOW IN THE VALLEY
    TOMOORROW…AND WE SAW THAT THE LAST FEW DAYS HOW EASY IT WAS TO
    RING OUT FLURRIES OUT OF WEAK FORCING. ABOUT THE BEST MESSAGE I CAN
    PUT OUT NOW IS…RESIDENTS SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR SNOW TOMORROW
    AFTERNOON AND EVENING. CONFIDENCE ON AMOUNTS AND LOCATIONS ARE LOW.
    WILL CONTINUE THE IDEA THAT THE BEST ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE SOUTH BUT
    WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH THIS.

  33. David in Otis says:

    When you say mid coast Mark are you talking Tillamook south or Lincoln city south?

  34. The Bad Forecaster says:

    Mark

    The early morning NWS Seattle AFD said that they believe most of the snow will stay south of Seattle. I checked the NWS digital forecast database last night and this morning and it says 4 inches for here in Southeast Tacoma. From the ECMWF map you are showing on here I think 4 inches might be on the high optimistic side and on top of that the 12z GFS ensemble chart this morning at least for Seattle is still showing still a pretty rapid ascent on the H850 temperatures. That would surely I think bode more well for lower snow totals than 4 inches here. I do have a little elevation and I am inland from the water but only half way between the water and the foothills so I basically still don’t get any orographic enhancement that much really.

    I think the real telling story though is, how deep will the warm air layer be when it gets over us? If it is deep and leaves the cold air pretty shallow then I fear there could be nasty freezing rain but if it is not and a lot of this incoming moisture comes north then I think the chances of perhaps 4 inches of snow could be possible and I think the NWS knows this as well because the word UNCERTAINTY surely has come up a lot in the AFD.

    This is just my opinion but I think it would be a real good idea to watch both the NAM and ECMWF going into this event. The NAM has better terrain modeling than the GFS which I am only usually inclined to be believe only in the shorter term as you know.

    Outside all the weather gibberish here it would be nice to see everyone get a good pasting so long as everyone can stay safe through it. Bottom line, is that some where between Portland and Seattle is due for a BIG event and has been for quite sometime.

  35. alohabb says:

    Hmm, should make my business trip to Newport, Corvallis interesting tomorrow.

  36. Snow89 says:

    12z ECMWF for Friday at 4am. PDX gets pounded.

    http://oi57.tinypic.com/2m2xbo7.jpg

  37. John Gibson says:

    We are in the the “dancing cloud” stage of Erik’s Epic Bust chart.

  38. Ryan says:

    Let’s go ECMWF!!!

  39. WestsideWes says:

    Who hacked Eric’s password and turned him into a beacon of snow optimism? :)

  40. PDX Weather Nut says:

    In my opinion it’s not “worse” as it’s been over 5 years since PDX has had a decent snowfall. Hopefully this won’t be another brief dusting that’s gone after two hours.

  41. Lurkyloo says:

    Time to make that “alki run!” :)

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