The coldest night of the winter for many of us westside is in progress right now. Yes, some places were colder earlier in the winter, but it’ll be close. Still waiting for the north wind in the Valley and east wind in the Gorge to completely decouple from the surface. With dewpoints around 10 many areas, it should be easy to get down into the teens.
So we’ve got moisture moving in tomorrow night, cold air in place, and a perfect setup for a brief snowfall? That forecast above is the 72 hour period ending Monday afternoon. Note it shows possibly a dusting (spotty) in the Valley. Possibly, but I see two things working against it (and mesoscale models seem to agree) getting more than a dusting:
1. Moisture is very slow to move in and quite light from late Saturday evening through daybreak Sunday…just a few hundreths of an inch. Not the best if you want really good evaporational cooling. That moisture dropping into the cold air and evaporating, thus taking “heat” out of the airmass. Temps cool as that occurs.
2. Onshore flow commences by sunset tomorrow, picking up, and by Sunday morning we’ll have a breezy southwest wind blowing up the Valley and THROUGH the Gorge too. Not a real warm airmass, but should be enough to lift the snow level up to 1,000′ or so.
Once we get past that, the threat for widespread snow in the LOWEST elevations is over, but it’ll be close off/on through the next 7 Days. If you think of a late-winter La Nina weather pattern, this would be it. Many feet of snow in the Cascades and even down into the foothills through the first week of March. Models show 2-3ft. of snow just from Sunday midday through Monday afternoon! It’s unusually cool westerly flow through the whole 7-10 day period. Looks like Monday night the snow level is back down around 1,000′ again (briefly).
Chief Meteorologist Mark Nelsen

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It has been snowing in Vernonia,Or. all day,slacked off and turned into rain for about 10 mins. then went back to snow.
WRF-GFS showing some 50-60mph gusts in the Willamette Valley on Wednesday. Something to DEFINITELY keep an eye on!
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/2011022700/images_d2/wgsfc.93.0000.gif
PDX-EUG of 12-14mb. Low deepening even as it passes north of PDX inland into Washington. Tight, compact low, no double barrel structure. I would estimate gusts 55-70mph. If there is good mixing possibly stronger. We need to closely watch future runs(Primarily the 12Z/00Z WRF) to see how it handles this low especially if it deepens it further. It could do so, but just the same the low could be weakened or track differently in the days to come.
So the radar is showing blue, but who thinks we will actually see snow tonight, and if so how much?
Thanks for the replies on the situation folks!
I love how you are all so knowledgeable while I am just trying to figure out what all the lines on a wind chart mean.
PDX reporting light snow at 10pm?
WooHoo, it’s finally warming up. I’m at 27.9. That’s the warmest it’s been today. I want my driveway to thaw out so I can go somewhere!!!!!
28.1 with SE winds. The snow on the trees is cracking pretty good.
My high temperature today is 34 degrees, which is the temperature right now. I hope it goes back down soon.
The chances of that happening are between 0 and none W7. Obviously with moisture approaching, the dome will maintain your temp at 33 or above. Should the dome fail at this, we know frozen precip will not penetrate anyway. Hahaah!
I hope not… I really don’t want to spend the next three days complaining again.
Had a high of 38 today. 32 now with a light S wind. Erik, I think you might have a super volcano under you. Call Kyle NOW!
Who is Erik?
Up to 35.6 here now. Every 0.1 degree increase is a new High at this point. How high will it go over the next 97 minutes, I wonder?
@Boydo: I just thought it was all the heat radiating from my deep-seeded hatred for this pathetic life I claim as my own…
Okay, maybe that was a little emo? My bad. Had a rough afternoon, and now I’m drowning it in alcohol. Maybe I should just close my blog tab… o_O
I just went outside…I can’t figure out what it is doing out there. In the light, it looks like rain but sounds like freezing raining when it hits…but isn’t coating like freezing rain. Tiny granular’s on surfaces but it definitely looks like rain as it falls. Temp is 30F…any idea’s?
Kind of reminds me of sleet.
Yes, to look at it on surfaces, I would say you are right. But what is falling doesn’t look like sleet.I actually expected to find a glaze on things because I thought it was freezing rain. Hmmm…maybe it is what others have been calling snizzle today.
sounds like this is gonna be a fun one….
FRONTAL PASSAGE EXPECTED AROUND 15Z MONDAY AT PORTLAND. THIS IS A
VERY IMPRESSIVE COLD FRONT WITH A SHARP FRONTAL TROUGH SEEN IN THE
NAM WHICH SHOWS A 6 DEGREE TEMPERATURE DROP IN ONE HOUR AS THE FRONT
PASSES. I AM ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE NAM IS SHOWING A LOT OF
PRECIPITATION BEHIND THE SLOPING FRONTAL SURFACE WHERE WARM
ADVECTION IS CUT OFF AND CAN NO LONGER COUNTERACT THE COOLING
EFFECTS OF SNOW FALLING INTO THE WARMER SHALLOW BOUNDARY LAYER. THIS
SITUATION DOESNT HAPPEN HERE VERY OFTEN…BUT IF THE PRECIPITATION
RATES ARE HIGH ENOUGH THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DRIVE THE SNOW LEVEL
DOWN TO NEAR THE VALLEY FLOOR IN THE NORTH MONDAY MORNING WHICH
WOULD BE RIGHT DURING THE MORNING COMMUTE. WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR
THIS AND SEE IF THE MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE THIS POSSIBILITY
OVER THE NEXT 36 HOURS.
yea, i just read the discussion.. sounds like could be an interesting few days for us here..
My folks are supposed to go to Lincoln City Monday Morning…. Ugh. Ah well it’s only 750′ over highway 18 I believe.
Can you say windstorm? GFS is SICK
Only on paper. Lows are notorious for behaving badly compared to the model ensembles this far out.
PDX-BLI gradient looks like 20mb which would be damaging… needless to say…. But, this far out odds of verifying are… SLIM
Snowing in manzanita Oregon
Do you guys see a chance for snow here in Salem on Monday? It looks like a cold rain, but that is just my thought.
I’m hoping that low trends south and comes onshore around Waldport and tracks NE.
O…
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/load.cgi?images_d1/slp.72.0000.gif
A lot of potential.
What would that mean? Another snow event?
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/load.cgi?images_d2/slp.78.0000.gif
I would doubt it I don’t think there would be enough cold/modified arctic air even if a good east wind were to develop. The thing you have to watch for with a strengthening low coming up from the south like this is a south wind event/storm.
By potential I hope you mean to take the track I mentioned leaving us on the cold side of the low with heavy precip dragging snow levels to the surface!
1 AM Wednesday
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/2011022700/images_d2/slp.81.0000.gif
Already 988mb. Let’s see how much further it deepens over the next 4-6 frames and if the low becomes a bit more compact.
I’d rather not have a windstorm unless it’s not too strong. 50 mph is my max lol!
4 AM Wednesday
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/2011022700/images_d2/slp.84.0000.gif
985mb. Gradient packing to the south of the low isn’t overly tight just yet.
Unfortunately on this path, trajectory, and due to the low still deepening there is no chance it would track inland south of PDX.
OH BOY!
10 AM Wednesday
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/2011022700/images_d2/slp.90.0000.gif
Now down to 980mb moving northeast. Much sharper gradient packing now seen. Low is about to take a more northerly course. This gradient packing may swing right over the Willamette Valley.
1 PM Wednesday
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/2011022700/images_d2/slp.93.0000.gif
979mb due west of Astoria. Dangerous gradient packing has moved onto the Coast and is progressing into the Willamette Valley.
50kt gusts Willamette Valley. High winds imminent ON this particular model run.
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_extended/images_d2/wgsfc.93.0000.gif
Looking at the frames between 1-4 PM Wednesday and extrapolating the gradient packing I estimate a peak PDX-EUG of 12-14mb. Extremely dangerous.
How high of winds would that be in the valley? I really don’t want this to materialize…
I would estimate gusts 55-70mph. If there is good mixing possibly stronger. We need to closely watch future runs(Primarily the 12Z/00Z WRF) to see how it handles this low especially if it deepens it further. It could do so, but just the same the low could be weaken or track differently in the days to come.
I was just outside and I’m not sure what’s falling from the sky sound like it was “crackling” as it hit the ground reminds me of the sound freezing rain makes when hitting a surface…but this isn’t an official report by any means. 31.7 degrees and the winds seemed to have switched to the east again that’s very interesting.
Winds have switched east here too
http://wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/swcam.aspx?cam=8069
the washington side of the astoria megler bridge, and it looks to be snowing at KM mountain. i cant help but to think all this will be reaching longview soon.
Will this storm produce strong east winds or south winds. I’m worried about my roof.
I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.
Good! since you shouldn’t sleep on the roof during a storm.
Down to 28.4 here in Camas, but the light snow seems to have already turned into light sleet. Anyone else seeing that?
ya its like tiny ice pellets
light dusting starting now
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/00/images/gfs_ten_090l.gif
Uh oh
good right ? for action
Yep. WRF will be interesting shortly.
I can’t tell but is it saying it’ll deepen to a 988? That’s not too bad… Right?
I think it’s closer to 984mb and this is a low res model. The WRF will likely be closer to 977-981mb. We’ll find out shortly.
This is good? or bad?
Bad if own a house near big tall trees.
For wind?
Yep.
Good if your chainsaw is in good repair.
bad for ben = no power to make video updates
Kind of hope we don’t get a windstorm but I know that I’m a minority in this!
North coast looks like fun.
http://www.tripcheck.com/TextPages/CAMdetail.asp?camRoute=US101&camName=US101%20at%20Astoria%20-%20ODOT%20District%20Office/392
http://www.tripcheck.com/TextPages/CAMdetail.asp?camRoute=US101&camName=US101%20at%20Astoria%20Bridge%20%28North%20Span%29/1608
Astoria was 36 with snow, now 33 with rain, gotta love it!
Just saw the update. Crazy…
That’s just not right.
no, really. I mean that’s just not right… I’m here. I can tell you it is snowing babies right now…(ask rob)
For sure looks like it’s snowing on the bridge (200ft).
Back down to 31.7 from 33.1 and the wind has switched from south at 5mph to east at 4 mph
Down to 31.2 with light east wind
Astoria back down to 34 temp, 32 dewpoint with light snow.
Snowing in Happy Valley at 5 flakes/minute.
Seriously: Is this a warm front or a cold front with chilly air behind it which will lead to another hard freeze?
It’s a weird situation, warmer air coming from the north. There will be some areas below freezing in the morning but most of us should be in the mid thirties.
It looks to me like we have a pretty good shot at some heavy wet snow early Monday morning as that heavier precip comes in pulling down the colder air to the surface- NAM backs this up quite nicely…